Posted on 03/04/2021 1:47:01 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
Residents who went online to check the status of their scheduled appointments with Sutter Health said they discovered the cancellations on Wednesday. Some tried furiously and futilely to find another provider.
A major Northern California health provider was scrambling Thursday to find enough COVID-19 vaccine to provide second doses for 40,000 people whose appointments were canceled and another 50,000 whose slots were in jeopardy.
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I think this was Biden’s plan; he seemed to think DJT was not doing things correctly by holding back enough for 2nd doses.
I suppose there is a risk that the vaccinations are going along TOO well, and risking that the masking and lockdowns might eventually END, unless they can disrupt access to vaccinations.
There’s a window of several weeks between doses that have been tested and found to be a complete non-issue. These people just need to get their second dose in the next few weeks.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html
This is a manufactured “emergency”. Feel free to ignore.
BIDEN BOTCHED THE ROLLOUT,!
Say it loud and say it long.
“So after the first shot is where the fun really begins.”
We have relatives across the country, age wise should have been basically automatic for the 1st vaccine.
Some are still trying.
Some after getting their first shot, then have no ideal when they will get their second shot.
One 75 year old SIL got her first one yesterday. When she was waiting for her 15 minutes to be over, she asked the RN who gave her the shot to sign her up for her #2 shot.
Our SIL was told that they could not do that, and that she would be called before 42 days for her second shot.
Which meant that the shot givers have no idea when the second shots would arrive.
So did that state over promise with the first shots in hopes of getting the second shots before the time limit passed?
Not getting the second shot is an avenue to vaccine associated Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) IMO. Your neutralizing antibodies will be low and when faced with mutant variety, there’s no telling what might happen. This is what causes ADE with Dengue Virus. The first time you get it it, it tends to be mild. But when you get a second time after your antibodies have fallen to a certain range, you get the fatal ADE form. High levels of neutralizing antibodies are protective against this.
The first shot gives 85% immunity. A second shot is really an option.
The second shot is the same stuff as in the first. There is no special supply of 2nd shots other than what may have been held back by whichever agencies are responsible for distributing doses. This is just a supply management problem. There is no reason why they can’t sign people up for the 2nd dose on a tentative basis; which can be re-confirmed in a few weeks when more info about availability can be determined. Some clinics are offering first come/first serve at the end of the day, no guarantees, so that none of the half-full vials dispensed each day have to be discarded.
Also part of the problem likely has to do with the prioritizing of various social segments e.g. front line workers, elderly, co-morbid but then you have teachers unions fighting to get moved up in line etc.
Also fwiw, there is some research into whether you can mix the Moderna vaccine with the Pfizer vaccines. So it is likely that it won’t matter which vaccine they have in stock just take one, and then the next. The one-shot JNJ vaccine should also help clear some of the field and get more doses to more people more quickly.
I received my first dose from Sutter Health three weeks ago and scheduled my second dose at that time. I got my second shot yesterday at Sutter in Roseville, CA and it went very smoothly. No line like at the first dose.
According to the UT, 307,000 people in San Diego County, most of them elderly, need their second shot; and many of them are having their appointments cancelled or rescheduled. Mrs P. Henry and I have had our appointments rescheduled twice. Much of this chaos is attributable to Governor Nuisance, who has diverted 50% of our vaccine supply to teachers and “disadvantaged zip codes,” most of which are in LA or the Central Valley.
bubbacluck wrote: “I received my first dose from Sutter Health three weeks ago and scheduled my second dose at that time.”
Here in Huntsville Alabama, you sign up for an appointment and Huntsville Hospital calls you to make the appointment. They make both the appointment for the 1st and the 2nd shot during that same call. The only difference is that you’re given a specific time for the first shot. You can return for the second shot anytime on the appointed date. I was able to make an appointment for both the wife and myself during the first call back so we could get the shots at the same time.
Thanks p. henry and courtesy copy to monkeyshine. Thanks to both of you for your feedback
According to the UT, 307,000 people in San Diego County, most of them elderly, need their second shot; and many of them are having their appointments cancelled or rescheduled. Mrs P. Henry and I have had our appointments rescheduled twice. Much of this chaos is attributable to Governor Nuisance, who has diverted 50% of our vaccine supply to teachers and “disadvantaged zip codes,” most of which are in LA or the Central Valley.
So after the first shot is where the fun really begins.
Well that’s crazy. Obviously there has to be a priority system and the people at most risk should get that priority not based on skin color or zip code income levels etc.
That said, there is some logic in deploying vaccines to areas where the new case rates are not declining.
Thanks. I guess you and I have a little too much common sense re priorities here!
Should be a priority: Well that’s crazy. Obviously there has to be a priority system and the people at most risk should get that priority not based on skin color or zip code income levels etc.
That said, there is some logic in deploying vaccines to areas where the new case rates are not declining.
That is logical if you have the vaccine. An Issue here, is an old one, “What your vaccine targets don’t want the vaccine?
Like?
Certain zip codes, a lot of military people on active duty and surprisingly a large % of our front line medical people don’t want vaccines.
I would presume that those who want/don’t want the vaccine would break down fairly equally among the various demographics (give or take). I know a few people who “swear” they were already infected (but never diagnosed) who think they don’t need it.
Supply does seem to be the main problem but it should improve. There’s already 110 million doses produced and delivered to the states and that doesn’t include the JNJ vaccine which should be rolling out any day now. IIRC Merck said they would help produce the JNJ vaccine thus expanding capacity.
Of course, we need something closer to 600 million doses produced and delivered. So we’re a long way off. Meanwhile, there are 20 million people actively infected and investigation into treatment for them remains woefully inadequate compared to the efforts behind vaccines. But some clinics are figuring it out on their own.
Thanks for joining this thread and posting to it.
Your comment below is a real potential opportunity. A few people are saying to qs that reality with the J&J vaccine.
” Meanwhile, there are 20 million people actively infected and investigation into treatment for them remains woefully inadequate compared to the efforts behind vaccines. But some clinics are figuring it out on their own.”
“The first shot gives 85% immunity.”
I got zero shots and have 100% immunity from fear of Coronavirus.
That is much higher than what I recall reading. I remember claims in the 40 to 50% range. Do you have a link for that?
I think that part of the problem is that scientific studies may have several "endpoints" in mind that they want to study.
For example, one study might have the following endpoints:
1) Did the person develop COVID-19 symptoms?
2) Did the person test positive for COVID-19?
3) Was the person hospitalized?
4) Did the person die of (or with) COVID-19?
Each of such endpoints must be clearly defined so that determinations can be made unambiguously.
As for "immunity", I don't think I have seen claims of such in what I have read. I have read that there is concern that vaccinated people may still acquire and spread COVID-19.
My plan (if Sutter ever re-schedules the appointment that they cancelled for today) is to continue staying away from unvaccinated people. I'm friend to a couple who are 87 and 89. They haven't had a first dose yet and I would not want to be the cause of their demise.
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