I will freely admit, that I did NOT take this virus very seriously at firs, and decided that it was all a hoax, to defeat Trump.
I still think there is considerable politics and misinformation involved with this virus, but
For now I've changed my opinion.
I take it very serious as I've seen healthy people die, and not recover from it.
One of the major misconceptions is that it contains fetal tissues, and was developed using fetal tissues. Both are wrong as is pointed out in the article.
I strongly recommend that you take the vaccine.
Parsed well. The lines of cells from abortions were set up long ago.
No.
They're dancing on the head of a pin trying to convince you.
Still, I'll probably take the vaccine. I'm 70 with underlying health conditions and if I get COVID, it's probably fatal.
Summary:
Question: were Covid vaccines made with aborted fetal tissue/cells?
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: no, but yes, because let me go on a long explanation explaining why I think you should inject something into your body derived from tissues and cells from aborted fetuses for a virus you have over a 99% chance of surviving and why this has no ethical or moral implications because scientism
No, thank you. You bend yourselves in ethical pretzels trying to justify the presence of aborted fetal tissue/cells in vaccines and then if that fails to quiet your conscience you LIE to yourself and pretend the vaccines aren’t made with them.
Some truth here:
“The most prominent cell line, called HEK 293, comes from an abortion performed in the 1970’s. It’s labeled 293 because that’s how many experimental attempts the researchers needed to get a working cell line. Therefore, though the abortion-to-experiment ratio is not precisely one-to-one, hundreds of abortions went into the project, even if they didn’t result in the working line.
HEK stands for human embryonic kidney. To harvest a viable embryonic kidney for this purpose, sufficiently healthy children old enough to have adequately-developed kidneys must be removed from the womb, alive, typically by cesarean section, and have their kidneys cut out. This must take place without anesthesia for the child, which would lessen the viability of the organs. Instead of being held, rocked, and comforted in the time intervening between their birth and their death, they have organs cut out of them alive.”
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2021/catholic-conscience-and-the-covid-19-vaccine
I plan to—because I nothing else I want to travel on an airplane and I’m sure vaccination will soon be a requirement for that.
Nope. Got Covid about 10 days ago. 70yo, in good health. Mild symptoms. Wife got it also. I would rather have my body fight it naturally.
To justify it, they make it sound like sourdough starter.
I think it is a distinction without a difference.
Even removed using cloned cells, those cells had to come from somewhere.
I am not an “anti-vaxxer” but I think that should be an individual choice. You want to be protected? You get the vaccine. You don’t want the vaccine? Your choice.
It rankles me that there are voices on the left using the vaccination status for a citizen as a roadblock to travel, job status, or anything else.
That is, to me, unconstitutional.
As for being a hoax, this virus itself has not ever been, and is NOT a hoax, and Trump never said it was. He said the response to it has been a hoax, which I DO believe.
This virus is not the Bubonic Plague killing 40% of the people it infects.
It kills around 2%, and those deaths are highly clustered around people with known or unknown co-morbidities.
The hoax was and is, to shut down and destroy the economy and damage the Trump Administration and to create fear in people.
We should have been (since April 2020) concentrating on protecting people at the greatest risk, instead of destroying jobs, businesses, and the economy by shutting everything down across the board from hair salons to gymnasiums.
THAT is the “hoax”, not that the virus exists and that it is dangerous to various parts of the population.
Do you really believe this crap. Follow the link below to find out this is a test to see if they can trick our bodies into thinking everything is okay while they restructure our DNA programming. Yes they have been practicing with this on aborted fetal tissue. We are not getting out of this world without death. I will not bend my knee to Big Pharma or anyone else.
https://www.modernatx.com/mrna-technology/mrna-platform-enabling-drug-discovery-development
Did you just hear that on ‘War Room’? NO $1400 stimulus check UNLESS you take the vaccine???
Actually they don’t have the faintest idea. All the data is provided by the manufacturers. No government agency or the referenced expert knows for sure. They have to “trust” the maker. The CDC, FDA and other government agencies do no testing for effectiveness or purity.
I will freely admit, that I did NOT take this virus very seriously at firs, and decided that it was all a hoax, to defeat Trump.
I was struck by how the leaders of virtually every nation shut down their economies apparently in dread of what havoc the Wuhan virus would wreak. I only wish we were told or even told now, what those leaders, including President Trump were told. It had to have been chilling.
I got my first Pfizer shot yesterday. So far, so good.
Taking what this article says is true leads to another question. Are these fetal cells and the subsequent lines only available from aborted fetuses or could they be obtained from living ones without any harm to them?
You say you took the Pfizer vaccine. From what you know, if a person had a choice between the Pfizer and the Moderna, which one would you recommend? Thanks.
Thank you for contributing to herd immunity.
Please let us know if there is any change to your health.
I’m curious as to how people that have taken the mRNA COVID19 vaccines react when they are exposed to the real virus. “Pathogenic priming”, “Immune Enhancement Phenomenon”.
So nikos, what do you say to people like impimp?