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Report estimates Chinese nuclear stockpile at 350 warheads
Defense News via Yahoo ^ | December 14th, 2020 | Mike Yeo

Posted on 12/14/2020 10:18:36 AM PST by Mariner

MELBOURNE, Australia — A paper published by the Chicago, Illinois-based Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists has estimated that China has 350 nuclear warheads, significantly more than that estimated by the U.S. Defense Department.

The report, written by Hans Kristensen, the director at the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists, and Matt Korda, a research associate at FAS, arrived at the number by counting both operational warheads and newer weapons “still in development.”

These weapons include hypersonic missiles, silo-based and road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missiles, and their submarine-launched equivalents, bringing the total number of nuclear warheads to more that the “low 200s” estimated by the Pentagon in its 2020 report on China’s military.

The think tank’s report also said an estimated 272 of the 350 warheads in the People’s Liberation Army are operational. That estimate includes 204 land-based missile warheads, 48 submarine-launched warheads and 20 aircraft-delivered gravity bombs.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bas; hanskistensen; hanskristensen; nukes; warheads; wmds
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This is why China will not provoke a hot war with the US.

There is no way to prevent escalation to nukes.

It is also why they will not try to sink a US carrier, the price of which is nuclear exchange.

Biden notwithstanding.

1 posted on 12/14/2020 10:18:36 AM PST by Mariner
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[This is why China will not provoke a hot war with the US.
There is no way to prevent escalation to nukes.

It is also why they will not try to sink a US carrier, the price of which is nuclear exchange.

Biden notwithstanding.]


That’s sufficient to eliminate half the US population. It’s the reason they can do anything short of a nuclear first strike without triggering a US nuclear attack. Even the loss of every single carrier would not be worth the loss of half the US population.


2 posted on 12/14/2020 10:24:15 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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The fleet that Bernie Schwarz helped build.

Never forget who signed off on technology waivers so the Chinese Commies generals could reach their full military potential and our shores from their villas.

Who hates us most?? China, Iran, NorKland.. CONgre$$??

Strange times. and dangerous.


3 posted on 12/14/2020 10:25:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!! Help beat the leftist media at their own game.)
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350 sounds like a lot. Until you realize that if they use them they are surrounded by unfriendlies. India is sitting there with 150, Pakistan has 160. South Korea and Japan could build a first class Lexus quality arsenal practically overnight. Russia has 6100. Not to mention we would obliterate them... at least for a few more weeks unless Biden gets in.


4 posted on 12/14/2020 10:27:19 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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They store warheads, launchers and missiles separately.

We can preempt them at will with a single Trident boat.

Counterforce.

No, they will never try to sink a US carrier.


5 posted on 12/14/2020 10:30:46 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Note that this is an estimate issued by unilateral no-nukes peaceniks. The Chinese nuclear force is likely several times higher, perhaps by an order of magnitude. The reason is fairly simple. It’s a technology they understand and doesn’t require huge R&D. Why wouldn’t they? The expensive moonshot stuff for them is carriers and stealth aircraft. Adjusted for income differences, the Chinese defense budget likely exceeds the US number. Nukes are small change in the scheme of things.


6 posted on 12/14/2020 10:31:34 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Kinda missing the point. China’s missiles are dual use...so if they launch ICBMs towards Guam or other locations/Carriers, we will not know what type of warhead will explode, until it does...then it is too late.


7 posted on 12/14/2020 10:32:32 AM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is a crazy lefty bunch that wants to prop up every communist regime they can, inflating such regimes’ capabilities whenever possible in hopes of detering US action against them.


8 posted on 12/14/2020 10:34:52 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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This estimate is significantly larger than the Pentagon’s estimate of “low 200s”.

The issue is not just warhead counts, it’s mostly effective, certain delivery systems.

And very, very short notice delivery.


9 posted on 12/14/2020 10:35:02 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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They are also the dorks with the so-called “Doomsday Clock.”


10 posted on 12/14/2020 10:39:40 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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“Warheads” is not always indicative of how many missiles since some missiles carry more than one warhead.


11 posted on 12/14/2020 10:41:41 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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I do not think sinking a carrier would lead to nukes being used.

But devastating conventional military weapons would wreck their navy.


12 posted on 12/14/2020 10:42:34 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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My distrust of the media causes me to distrust this information. That is a shame really. Our choices are with the MSM:

- Be uninformed.
- Be misinformed.


13 posted on 12/14/2020 10:45:41 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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“significantly more than that estimated by the U.S. Defense Department.”

Interesting.

The DOD has a LONG track record of grossly overestimating enemy capabilities, the better to get more money out of Congress...


14 posted on 12/14/2020 10:49:37 AM PST by null and void (My President is a Person Of Color, Orange is a Color...)
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I’m not sure I understand your point. Why would China look at eliminating half of the US population as a bad thing?


15 posted on 12/14/2020 10:51:28 AM PST by null and void (My President is a Person Of Color, Orange is a Color...)
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[They store warheads, launchers and missiles separately.

We can preempt them at will with a single Trident boat.

Counterforce.

No, they will never try to sink a US carrier.]


That’s what the peaceniks say. Do I believe them? No. They are estimated to have 6 of these https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin-class_submarine, each carrying 12 SLBMs.

What they have in their underground facilities is anybody’s guess. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_Great_Wall_of_China My take is that anyone who nukes China had better be prepared to kill every last one of them. Because nuclear retribution is only a matter of time. A president willing to kill 1.3 b people over the deaths of 5,000 in a conventional attack and risk the deaths of over 100m Americans? I think that’s a stretch.


16 posted on 12/14/2020 10:52:46 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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- Be malinformed

as in not merely misinformed with random inaccurate information, but being deliberately malinformed with carefully crafted and targeted dangerously wrong information.


17 posted on 12/14/2020 10:54:39 AM PST by null and void (My President is a Person Of Color, Orange is a Color...)
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To: dp0622

The Chinese study the Second World War. Japan never believed they could win a prolonged war with the United States, but they did not believe that the United States would persist in a long war after Pearl Harbor. The Japanese seriously underestimated U.S. resolve. It is a mistake that the Chinese do not intend to make. The U.S. was never the Japanese target, it was the Asian colonies of countries overrun by Germany, and those of Great Britain. The U.S. was in the way. Since the U.S. was pledged to grant independence to the Philippines, they didn’t think the U.S. would fight to regain control for a few years.


18 posted on 12/14/2020 10:55:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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” A president willing to kill 1.3 b people over the deaths of 5,000 in a conventional attack and risk the deaths of over 100m Americans? “

It would not start that way.

Small tactical nukes against Chinese forces outside the mainland first, escalating to direct strikes against their military facilities on the mainland if they retaliate.

With thousands of warheads in reserve.


19 posted on 12/14/2020 10:57:48 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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[The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is a crazy lefty bunch that wants to prop up every communist regime they can, inflating such regimes’ capabilities whenever possible in hopes of detering US action against them.]


Actually, they minimize enemy inventory in hopes of triggering unilateral disarmament in the West. Their view is money spent on weaponry is better redirected towards their favorite welfare state boondoggles. This is not a new thing. The Russians funded them for decades. These days, it’s probably the same people who fund the Democrats.


20 posted on 12/14/2020 11:00:18 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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