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Stuck In Online Schooling, U.S. Kids Are Failing More Classes Than Ever And Will Never Recover
The Federalist ^ | November 30, 2020 | Joy Pullman

Posted on 11/30/2020 10:44:52 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Stravinsky

> “She is also the 2013-14 recipient of a Robert Novak journalism fellowship for in-depth reporting on ***Common Core*** national education standards.”

Pretty little thing. Too bad she’s stupid.


21 posted on 11/30/2020 11:21:54 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

“Kids in well-run Digital Academies do much better than their Marxist indoctrinated brick and mortar peers. This piece looks as if it was written by lawyers aligned with socialist educational unions.”

See my post right above. Those academies do well because the students are cherry picked. People who send their kids to private aschools generally are ambitious, wealthier and have goals set for their kids and face it their kids are smarter-good genes.

Brick and mortar schools have every economic strata and that is where the poorer and dumber kids end up.


22 posted on 11/30/2020 11:23:11 AM PST by setter
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To: Kaslin

all by design


23 posted on 11/30/2020 11:24:47 AM PST by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: lurk

Our brother and his wife are teachers, and there is no teaching going on right now. ....That’s OK. They get their paycheck to pay their Union dues. Sheesh, priorities you know.


24 posted on 11/30/2020 11:28:52 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: setter

But see, the new mantra is “online schooling simply doesn’t work.” There is no other statement qualifying this very black and white thinking with zero evidence.

Everyone is falling for this statement.

Public online schooling with teachers who are ill equipped and discouraged from thinking outside of the box are struggling. They are struggling because the very nature of online schooling requires the educator to be a master in their fields. Today’s teachers are told what to present and how to present it. There is no deviation from the presentation or deep understanding of the material being presented. That is discouraged. That is why public virtual classes are failing the students. No school was prepared for their teachers to teach this way and I do believe now the negativity towards it is encouraged so not only can we go back to the horrible status quo that is public education, but drag those who enjoy the benefits of online private schools back in the door and erase their rights and freedoms to pursue education as best suits them.

The burdens on the students are ridiculous to teach themselves in this new system. I’ve seen it . I’ve also seen the material and it is weak and does not flow logically.

I have three college graduates and two high schoolers who have participated in virtual schools . The schools are excellent and so was the teaching.

Check out wilostar3D if you want to see what is available that the public school can’t duplicate or refuses to do so.

Parents should be given their tax dollars back to employ the teachers they want. Some parents are coordinating with others and grouping their children into small classes and hiring teachers they want. That is how it should work.


25 posted on 11/30/2020 11:32:39 AM PST by Billie Bud
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To: Hostage

I took both my boys out of public school early on, and I can attest there was a large learning curve to switch to homeschooling.

The biggest problems we faced were that they were not taught to think in public school. They also did not trust me to be in charge of their learning.

I had a good friend who urged me to stick with it. After 6 months, things started to change. My boys learned to think for themselves and I became less of a teacher and more of a facilitator. By the time they were in middle school and high school, I had to do very little. They did school mostly online at that point and when they came to difficult concepts, they knew how to find answers themselves.

My older son aced the standardized tests and was accepted to every college to which he applied, but he chose a trade and loves it. He runs his own crew and is doing well. My youngest son also did well on standardized tests, started doing college work at 16 and is now on track to graduate with his bachelor’s at 19.

So, I know there are a lot of logistical problems with homeschooling with working parents and such, but I suspect that there are other issues as well. Trying to conform children to a mold when they are distance learning seems to me to be an impossible hurdle. Also, one on one really does highlight learning issues and gaps in their knowledge which I suspect were there already, but easier to hide in a group setting.

One of the joys of homeschooling was that my boys could learn at their own pace, in their own way. One of my sons would learn spelling while jumping on a trampoline, and the other could spend hours in front of a book or computer. They both struggled in school before I pulled them out, but they quickly caught up and surpassed their peers. My younger son is tutoring his younger friends who are going through the online experience now.

I didn’t mean to write so much, but I believe that what makes homeschooling work is exactly the reason it is not working in these online setups by public schools. Kids are natural learners, and too often that ability gets trained out of them in formal education and groupthink.

Socially, we kept them involved in sports, church, community activities, field trips with friends and other activities. They are socially well-adjusted. The kids right now being kept from group activities, I believe is not helping their emotional well-being.


26 posted on 11/30/2020 11:32:59 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Kaslin

How pathetic watching so-called “conservatives” cry and whine over the closing of public schools.

Apparently, Republicans like socialism, too, just a smaller degree of it.


27 posted on 11/30/2020 11:55:15 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Kaslin

exactly what the libtard socialists want

- even dumber kids

- teachers find a way to work even LESS hard

- while still gett ing full salaries

- and the unions still get full dues

- and they can prep the school buildings for internment and death camp for their enemies, because after the scare tactics for school shootings these places are now fortress prisons with metal detectors all over


28 posted on 11/30/2020 11:59:20 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kaslin

Oh no. Kids are missing their screwels. Rest assured all families who care are making sure their kids are getting an education. The rest of them were getting state edukation and indoctrination. I doubt society is any worse off for it.

They can be deemed educated.


29 posted on 11/30/2020 12:01:56 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: setter
Sorry setter, you're wrong about that.

Washington Connections Academy (WACA)

WACA

Top rated, tuition-free, hundreds of extracurricular activities and events, parent message boards, live video lessons with fully credentialed certified teachers, great curriculum.

Connections Academy is nationwide with an Academy in each state. They've been operating for years, well-run, established, recently doubled, tripled enrollment due to the covid.

But something strange just now happened. When I went to go grab the link for ya, I noticed it came back blank with "The request is blocked". Is ghoulgle blocking WACA traffic?

Anyways, if you're a skool teecher then I can unnerstan you taking that opinionated Pavlov jerky response.

Me, I'm just a lowly PhD in theoretical sciences. But hey, I'm improving! I used to look at myself in the mirror every 5 minutes or so, now I got it down to once every other day. It helps that I'm older now and frighten myself when I look in the mirror. But not all is moving in the right direction. I used to be just an SOB, now I'm a mean SOB. Why Trump Admin won't hire me. Democrats will though, but they're too stupid for my tastes.

30 posted on 11/30/2020 12:09:16 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: LilFarmer

See #30. It’s informative until I tried injecting some self-exalting/deprecating humor. Just read the first parts.


31 posted on 11/30/2020 12:12:28 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Kaslin

Doesn’t much matter, you don’t have to be able to do much as a peasant in a communist dictatorship anyway.


32 posted on 11/30/2020 12:14:13 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (I did not leave my country, my country left me)
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To: Hostage

I enjoyed the post, thanks! We used Alpha Omega and my boys enjoyed it. We also have a large hs community in my area with their own sports program, they didn’t miss a thing - sports, dances, homecoming, prom, JROTC, clubs, etc.


33 posted on 11/30/2020 12:16:32 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: lurk

My granddaughter is so far behind now, we are going to try and get her held back a year in a new school. I kept her during the virtual learning disaster. It had less than 45 minutes a day of actual face to face teaching, the rest was filling out pages on the Chromebook. Poor kid had to stay at the computer for nearly 6 hours a day. They finally went back and still have no textbooks “because of Covid”. They are talking about shutting down again. God help us all. She was an A, B Honor Roll student before this.


34 posted on 11/30/2020 12:18:50 PM PST by Himyar (Comes A Stillness/ God Bless Robert E. Lee)
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To: Kaslin

Heard an interesting interview with some fellow on Bannon’s War Room. Forgot his name but he wrote an article: “Logos, Davos, Soros” was a publisher for The Remnant..

He said that Bill Gates (NWO) player’s desired outcome was to get everyone dependent on operating via computers. Thus his take on PANDEMIC-online learning was the bridge away from in person learning.


35 posted on 11/30/2020 12:31:00 PM PST by magna carta (TX all you have to do is send an email to principal with a witness included on the communication.)
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To: LilFarmer

That sounds about right. These well-oiled online public schools have to lay low though. The school districts see them as revenue poachers Lol!

Seriously, many of the brick and mortar commie schools have had to switch to online this year and they don’t know WTF they’re doing.

And now I find google appears to be blocking traffic to the established tuition-free online academies. Yes, Virginia, I think that’s deliberate.

The brick and mortar public school Teacher’s Unions need a major smack down. They truly are nauseating. Of course, their young teachers are all idealistic and smiley face until they learn the whole thing is a mess by design and can only be fixed by higher taxes or Nasty Pelooosi sending billions in stimulus so their pension fund managers can play the stock market enriching their hedge fund buddies who sit poised to short whatever is bought on their behalf.

Damn I wish there was a Rubicon I could cross.


36 posted on 11/30/2020 12:33:16 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Billie Bud; Hostage

But see, the new mantra is “online schooling simply doesn’t work.”

Half the parents are not pushing their own kids, 1/3 right off the top do not have computers at home or slow internet making the process intolerable.

A conservative teacher friend of mine said only a 1/3 of his students are doing all the work.

As I said I work with business owners every day. Nearlly all can’t wait to bring back their employees. It’s a big fail for most companies. I have tried zoom and skype with my buisness clients..it is darn tough. Way easier to show a proposal in real life.

WFH and online schooling takes discipline and most parents do not have the skills or even want to do it.

1/2 the parents out there are totally worthless to begin with. Only the wealthy, educated parents are making it work.

This has n othing to do with sticking up for public schools which I hate with a passion


37 posted on 11/30/2020 2:10:47 PM PST by setter
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To: Obadiah

already colleges are saying they just won’t use the SAT or ACT any more. So the kids won’t have to take them. And I expect the online teachers will just pass everybody along like the inner city schools have done for generations now. After all, it’s not their problem - the teachers are getting paid.


38 posted on 11/30/2020 2:18:36 PM PST by ptcmama
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To: olivia3boys

Sadly he is not alone. I have heard similar stories from otherwise good students. They hate the phoney online learning and are just skimming by or have checked out. Mark my words, most schools will just figure out a way to move kids along. Extra credit, a little fake summer school, it will be something.


39 posted on 11/30/2020 2:35:45 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: setter

> “WFH and online schooling takes discipline and most parents do not have the skills or even want to do it.”

You are carrying the narrative of public school unions.

The superior performance of digital academies is no longer even arguable.

Parents that stay home find that everything is all done for them, online schedules and assignments, online office hours, classes, online homework, calendars, progress tracking, contact time tracking, everything.

It’s so easy for a parent.

For parents that must work, they can designate a ‘Learning Coach’ in their community to sit with kids while they attend online.

These online schools are awesome. ask yourself why you haven’t heard about them?

Democrats control the public school unions, they control the media and the message. They are not about to give parents a superior independent alternative.

The public brick and mortar schools have a business model that demands there must always be a crisis of some sort and the only answer is more money.

But it never gets fixed and never will. There are too many hands in it that rely on its teetering failure.

The online public academies are a counterexample to their constant crisis business model.

That’s why you don’t know about them.

But I’ve given you a link so you can be informed and share with others. And note that Google is blocking access to it when searched.


40 posted on 11/30/2020 3:21:14 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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