Posted on 10/29/2020 11:07:52 PM PDT by RandFan
I’m glad they’re confident about PA and FL. If they’re right then they’ve got it won. But with vote fraud possibilities they need to win some other battlegrounds.
You need to check the VBM and IPEV figures for Florida. Trump has essentially got it in the bag.
Its about track record.
Why would anyone believe CNN NBC ABC WAPO NYT polls when they got it wrong by huge margins in 2016?
I don’t. And neither does the Trump campaign.
The Battle of Trafalgar established British naval supremacy for more than 100 years.
So would you still believe it if it said Trump was 5 points down or are you believing it because the numbers suit you?
Nobody's numbers suit me. Too many people have been browbeaten into staying silent when it comes to support for Trump and only a tiny, tiny percentage of people they poll would know about their reputation.
I think if there were a poll on whether the sun rises in the East it would be close if East had an R after the word.
I have ALWAYS SAID THIS. Nice to see someone else saying this!
Here is a Liberal Voter. Oh no he left California for Texas bringing his Marxism with him. Yes, bad for a Texas. But...good for California. It’s not a zero sum game!!
I believe actually that most of the voters leaving blue states are net benefits for the red. I read a statistic that 59 percent of new Texas immigrants vote conservative. Don’t have the cite.
I heard a guy from Trafalgar on Bongino’s podcast. He was calling for Trump to get north of 270EVs. His biggest worry was Wisconsin, said voter fraud could be a factor. The bottom line like in 2016 is Trump has like 10 paths to victory and Biden has to flip 7 heads up in a row coin flipping contest to win. I personally don’t think this will be all that close. I think by 1am the media will be in a flop sweat as they see the down-ticket stuff threatening Nancy’s speakership.
“So would you still believe it if it said Trump was 5 points down or are you believing it because the numbers suit you?“
Yes, many FReepers (including me) are predisposed to believing the more optimistic polls - but not BECAUSE they are optimistic - it is because we have good reason to believe they are right, and the pessimistic polls are wrong.
If a few of the pollsters are smart enough to see what we see coming - a Trump victory - then of course we will put more stock in what those pollsters have to say.
They are the only ones with their heads not up their asses.
I believe Trump is going to win but no polls have anything to do with it. I find it impossible to believe that someone who draws in people by the thousands day in and day out could lose to someone who can’t fill a Bingo hall and even the former President can’t drum up any enthusiasm for him. I base my experience on a man who spent 400 million dollars and couldn’t buy 1 percent of the voters. It’s tough to win when you can’t even inspire anyone to cheat for you. That’s my poll.
I think we are mostly in agreement - the polls are worthless.
I was trying to point out an irony: these late-breaking optimistic polls are significant because they expose the fake news sponsored polls as frauds.
I am not suddenly a believer in polling, just because some polls agree with my optimism - it is more that they help discredit the overly pessimistic polls.
A similar thing with covid “experts”. I think doomsday doctors like Fauci are full of shit - so when Dr Atlas comes along and says the opposite, I rejoice - not because I found an “expert“ who agrees with me, so I suddenly like “experts”.
It’s because the “experts“ are cancelling each other out and maybe we can stop listening to government appointed bureaucratic “experts”, and start educating ourselves, thinking for ourselves and listening to non government doctors who have earned our trust.
We need Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona...then all the stupid delayed (fake) ballots being counted in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Nevada (?) won’t matter. Right?
I think all public polls are basically tools of persuasion.
Earlier polls were intended to persuade the public that Trump is a Loser and Joe is a Winner and everybody ought to back the winner.
Current polls are intended to persuade the public that polling isn’t a joke, pollsters know what they’re doing, and Trump is a very viable candidate, while Joe may not be.
Nothing really convinces me that either statement is worth a hill of beans.
The Trafalgar poll was the most accurate in 2016.
Doesn’t matter to me if you don’t want to see the value in that.
Right - I agree polls are BS. They are either guessing or lying, one or the other.
They are talking about who is “leading” in a race that hasn’t even happened yet!
But a lot of low-information people on both sides trust the BS polls - which all (until recently) show Biden way ahead.
I think it is great to finally see polls showing Trump ahead - sure - they are BS too - but I’m glad the dummies who believe in polls are at least getting BS from both directions - it dilutes the Democrat propaganda.
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