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Published 2 hours ago Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
Fox News ^ | 23 October 2020 | Caitlin McFall

Posted on 10/23/2020 4:55:23 PM PDT by Magnatron

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To: Magnatron
 
 
The world needs ditch diggers too, Frank.
 
 

21 posted on 10/23/2020 5:03:32 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Magnatron

For the honest pollsters who get it wrong, it’s not their fault. After five years of threats, abuse, belittling, physical assaults, and Cancel Culture, Trump voters cannot be blamed for lying to pollsters about their preferences.

So, Frank, blame your Leftist friends for destroying your industry.


22 posted on 10/23/2020 5:04:22 PM PDT by kevao (BIBLICAL JESUS: Give your money to the poor. SOCIALIST JESUS: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Magnatron

I just had a Dem worker call me. I said I was an “independent”. She hung up on me. I was very polite.

They only want what they want to hear.


23 posted on 10/23/2020 5:04:30 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Magnatron

Please God.


24 posted on 10/23/2020 5:05:35 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: Magnatron
The problem is that they have become enamored of their "special sauce" on the polls.

Best method is the simplest.

Call random numbers in each state.

Ask them if they are going to vote and for who.

Say thank you for your time and hang up.

Keep going until you have 2000 answers on who they are going to vote for per state.

Calculate.

25 posted on 10/23/2020 5:06:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Magnatron

Who in their right mind if you are a Registered Republican would tell these pollsters how you are going to vote? Luntz and the rest of the pollsters just don’t understand the silent voting majority that is fed up with Dem Politics.


26 posted on 10/23/2020 5:06:42 PM PDT by Metrobank
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To: Magnatron

No Frank, You are done. 538 is done. Trafalger is solid. Rasmussen is good. Richard Barris at big data polls has very high standards.


27 posted on 10/23/2020 5:07:48 PM PDT by joelt
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You will then know the intentions of people who answer spam calls on a phone and are willing to tell a stranger their otherwise secret vote.

Good luck with that.


28 posted on 10/23/2020 5:08:32 PM PDT by anton
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To: 38special

I listened to a segment from Australia’s Sky News yesterday. They referenced a recent experimental poll taken of Trump *donors*. Forty percent of them told the pollster they were voting for Biden. LOL.


29 posted on 10/23/2020 5:08:32 PM PDT by kevao (BIBLICAL JESUS: Give your money to the poor. SOCIALIST JESUS: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Magnatron

There are still a few good pollsters out there. It just requires really knowing the demographics of a state and a willingness to do the grunt work to get samples from hard to poll groups.

Trafalgar, Big Data Poll, and Susquehanna are probably the best at it.


30 posted on 10/23/2020 5:08:44 PM PDT by Raymann
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To: Magnatron
Pollsters are going to have to change their methodology. When you're getting 1-2% response rate, a pollster has no assurance that the sample is representative of the population.

After 2016, most pollsters just tweaked their methodology when a complete overhaul was required. The models they are using in 2020 are essentially the same as the ones used in 2016.

Pollsters need to figure out a good way to get valid responses from the "shy" voter. Assuming I actually answered the phone for one of these pollsters, given the ability to link me to my response and the doxxing and worse threats being reported, I'd be reluctant to respond with an unpopular choice.

31 posted on 10/23/2020 5:08:52 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Joe Biden: Showing his leadership by cowering in the basement like a scared child.)
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To: Magnatron

Presumably the private inside polls are still accurate.


32 posted on 10/23/2020 5:09:00 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: Magnatron

Any time Putz Luntz comes on TV it’s an automatic channel change.


33 posted on 10/23/2020 5:10:33 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: Magnatron

The world’s oldest profession?


34 posted on 10/23/2020 5:11:11 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: anton
Which is exactly what you get with any other polling method except you include people who are willing to spend a half hour with you on the phone. You then filter them by what ever standard you have selected to get the results you want.
35 posted on 10/23/2020 5:13:43 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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bye Frank, time to pack up your box full of belongings and head out the office door

Hey Frank, maybe you can get into janitorial or something, Dude.

36 posted on 10/23/2020 5:13:51 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: Magnatron

Here’s a hint... I hang up on pollsters because I don’t have the time.

Guess who has the time for pollsters?


37 posted on 10/23/2020 5:14:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." --Richard Feynman)
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To: Magnatron

The sell the desired result right up until the result can be verified.


38 posted on 10/23/2020 5:15:39 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: Magnatron

I think he’s wrong. The polling “profession” is called propaganda. The second oldest profession. It’ll never go out of style!


39 posted on 10/23/2020 5:16:00 PM PDT by gr8eman (If the CCP took over NYC when DeBlasio was elected would it be in worse or better shape now?)
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To: Magnatron

Well I guess they’d better stop playing games and start doing legitimate polling. Then we’d all be happy.


40 posted on 10/23/2020 5:16:25 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Irish lives matter!)
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