Posted on 10/18/2020 5:07:41 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
I live in Washington Co. which is in the SW corner.
Very few cases.
In Walmart maybe 1/3 to 1/2 wear masks in the store and virtually no one outside.
Out here in the country folks just ignore Tommie The Commie and mentally ill Dr "Don't Call Me Dick" Levine.
We made many sacrifices but failed to get the numbers down.
Compared to Europe calling what we did a “lockdown” WAS a joke.
What? Are the democrats against personal responsibility?
Here’s a great idea to stop or slow the spread of sickness.
Sick people need to stay home.
It would take care of over 90% of the problem I’m sure.
My sister works for a woman who is adamant about people staying home while they are sick. They can work from home if need be, but she simply does not want a sick person in the office spreading the germs and compromising everyone else.
Then the entire office ends up sick and productivity is way down.
The sick person is not going to be terribly productive in the office anyways, so working from home is no loss that way, and IMO, is actually likely to be more productive as they can take breaks and rest as needed.
Rise? How much rise? Red states didn’t have that much to begin with.
Notice how they have also moved on from “slow the spread” in the early days to “stop the spread.” Like you said, CCPVirus is with us, it will spread no matter what you do.
Cruelty and child abuse.
Psychological abuse is abuse.
Sick people need to stay home.
For generations we have incentivized going to school and work while sick as somehow being virtuous.
We need to eliminate school "perfect attendance" awards.
Stop lumping sick leave and vacation leave together into one PTO pool
Stop dinging employees on evaluations for using earned sick leave.
Start DISCIPLINING employees for coming to work while sick.
Well for some of us who weren’t allowed to earn a living it wasn’t a joke.
“BOTTOM LINE: Whether or not the cost of prolonged strict lockdowns is proportionate to the harms caused by widespread virus circulation is a political, not a scientific, question.”
True. If we had a nightmare pandemic on our hands with millions dropping like flies, there would be no question that restrictions are necessary to limit deaths.
Determining when a pandemic is “deadly enough” to warrant the restriction of all citizens and how early to begin restrictions is purely a subjective/political decision.
Yes and also—eliminate change fees from the airlines when people change flights. Many already have, and I hope it stays.
Change fees just incentivizes people traveling when they are sick.
Thanks for some scientific stats that back my reality check:
COVID-19 is airborne.
That means, “in the air, everywhere”.
It is ENDEMIC.
We will ALL get exposed..over and over.
MANY of us will “test positive”, mostly without symptoms, again and again.
SOME of us will be “symptomatic”, and a subset will be really sick.
And (unfortunately) a FEW of us will die.
This is NOT the Bubonic plague.
This is NOT the Spanish Influenza.
Tear off that face diaper.
Breathe deeply. Inhale some COVID. Inhale some more!
Build up your immune system.
And LIVE!
Preach it!
It is NOT virtuous to work while sick.
It’s rude and inconsiderate to deliberately act in such a way as to expose others to an illness that will compromise them.
No, the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is 2.7%. That comes from 224,732 deaths and 8,388,038 identified cases in the US. The Infection Fatality Rate is the actual underlying mortality rate. It's the ratio of deaths independent of missed cases and deaths. By March/April, we knew it was between 0.5% and 1%. By the end of May, every new study had it between 0.64% and 0.66%. There have been literally dozens of studies confirming the IFR at 0.65% which is why the CDC publishes that as the overall IFR (Source).
"Do we really know how many folks had mild symptoms or asymptomatic that never were tested?"
Yes, we do. You take a combination of serology studies performed in multiple regions, combine it with excess mortality figures, and cross check that with the documented stats on asymptomatic/mildly symptomatic/moderately symptomatic/severely symptomatic cases from blanket testing protocols (e.g. hospitals, where everyone gets tested regularly regardless of symptoms) and you build a solid profile of how many have been infected.
In the US, around 12-13% of the population has been or currently is infected. That varies significantly by region. For example, in New Jersey that's closer to 29% whereas Utah is closer to 3%.
No, what airborne means is that it's able to "survive" (technically just remain infectious) for a short period of time within aerosols before the proteins denature. The theoretical half-life for SARS-CoV-2 in aerosols in laboratory conditions is 1.1-1.2 hours (Source). That means if you started with 1,000 infectious SARS-CoV-2 virions, you'll have ~500 after 1.1-1.2 hours and ~250 after 2.2-2.4 hours.
However, in the real world, this is heavily dependent on conditions. If you're outside, air currents and sunlight are constantly destabilizing the aerosols and assaulting the virions, rendering them inert at a much faster rate and spreading them apart very quickly. This is likely a large part of why virtually no one is catching COVID-19 from outside activities. In a small, poorly ventilated indoor space, an infected person spending a long time will likely put a whole lot of infectious virions into that space. Most will still be in respiratory droplets. It's possible some will be within aerosols (this is still theoretical at this time as no actual aerosolized transmission outside of laboratory conditions has been documented).
Thanks. Good explain.
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