Posted on 10/09/2020 2:38:30 AM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
I hope we have massive lawsuits from this. It won’t ease the pain or bring back loved ones, but maybe can stop these tyrants. To me it’s a criminal rather than civil injustice but without an armed rebellion these tyrants will get away with it. So lawsuits might be the only answer. Sue for multimillions than use it to help elect freedom loving constitutional representatives that won’t ever pull this again.
I’m going through a similar experience with my parents who are in assisted living. They’ve been locked down since end of February. The first few months couldn’t leave their apartment. Dining room was closed. Not even doctors allowed in. Things are easing a lot now. The difference in their lives has been technology. I got my parents a tablet, showed my dad how to use zoom. He also is a texting fiend and uses duo. We have two Bible studies a week (family and church members are leading) and weekly family meetings with zoom. We set up a family chat group for texting the group at once. I understand not everyone has been able to make use of that, but it has really helped my family.
Sorry to hear about your Dad.
One of our adult female in laws is now back on the East Coast and finally getting to hold a funeral service today for her mother, who died in late March in a NH, supposedly with CV19.
In late March, this lady was informed that her mother supposedly had Covid 19, and a strict no visitor policy. A few days later her mother died. She was informed that would not be a funeral service until late summer or early fall. Her mother was cremated, and her ashes stayed at the funeral home. Until this week.
We have had several older church members die in NH’s this year, supposedly with CV 19. Their family members were not allowed to be with their loved ones as they passed on.
We have not seen one of our sons and his family since March. Another adult son and his love of his life spent one night here while their hometown was evacuated due to the fires. They have jobs with high personal encounter counts with others.
They were panicked that they might have the virus and then give it to us.
They wore their masks all day. Finally, we told them we were not scared, however, if they wanted to check into a motel we would understand. So they did for a week. We got phone calls and texts from them throughout everyday.
We are a hugging/snuggling and kissing family with our relatives. It was a real struggle on our part not to just grab and hug them.
Several friends our age here and across America have had the same thing happen to them with their family members.
One of my wife’s longest friends/timewise, had one of her adult sons visit. He stayed in a motel and avoided any close personal contact with his parents. His last day of semi visiting, he was diagnosed with having CV 19.
He has isolated himself in his motel room. He will be over his isolation this weekend. However, the local doctor who treated him is also the family doctor of this son’s parents.
His Dad is scheduled for some Cardio surgery. The cardio surgeon and FP advised this son to avoid all contact with his parents until well after his Dad’s upcoming surgery.
We have church members our age, who are basically in jail in their Nursing homes with and without a CV 19 diagnosis. Their family members and friends are not able to see them due to California rules.
Agreed
Absolutely unbearable my FRiend. I and my family are so very sorry for your loss.
As I said in my earlier post, we are so very sorry for your loss.
But there is also something I need to get off my chest. I really hope all of you out there, many right here on FR, who were and are continuing to perpetuate this fear and lockdowns, are happy with yourselves. These stories, of dying from lonliness, easily one of the worse ways to go, are a direct result of your actions. YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!
Believe me, I've spent many hundreds of hours in the past 2+ years brainstorming ways to make this possible.
I could fill 5 full pages here summarizing each problem to be overcome and all the ideas for how to solve each.
If we were wealthy it would have been a cinch - buy a handicap-accessible home and all move into it, buy an actual wheelchair van, hire a nurse to visit several times daily, hire a cook to make the specially-processed meals that are still appetizing enough to convince someone to eat them, pay for unlimited PT+OT+ST visits, hire other healthcare workers experienced enough to recognize the telltale signs when something's changed for the worse, and more.
But since we aren't wealthy, then all the special needs would have to be covered by ours + Dad's financial situation, requiring alternative solutions.
"... still ambulatory. ... Put alarms on every door."
That's one whopping difference = the fact your Mom is ambulatory.
If she ever becomes completely non-ambulatory, not able to assist in all the necessary daily transfers, you will fully realize the difference between your current situation and other families.
Or at least your sisters will.
I hope your Mom is still aware enough of her situation, that she is immensely grateful to your two sisters and tells them so frequently. If not, then someone else, like for instance yourself, needs to do that.
For some families, not convenient.
But for many like ours, not possible.
Thank you to those of you who offered condolences and prayers in response to my comments. I really appreciate it!!!
I hear they're starting to ease up a bit down the street as well. Group exercises of 5 people or less are allowed. And I think other group activities as well, though AFAIK meals are still alone in rooms except for a very few residents. And limited medical visits for non-life-threatening matters .... eg treating conditions that cause chronic pain but aren't medical emergencies.
And the last time I saw Dad when he was still doing well physically was the first day they allowed "face to face" visits. I put that in quotes because of the masks covering all faces up to the eyes, not allowing us to see each other's mouths where most of the facial expressions happen.
The week prior, I had really been hyping this day to Dad on our twice-daily phone calls --- "At last! We get to actually come visit you! ... just 3 more days... just 2 more days..."
But the restrictions were major: The facemasks, visits only 15 min long, only once per week, only two family members, sit across a 6 ft diam table outside, no touching/hugging/etc. Outside visit only, so inclement weather cancels your appointment. I tried to spin the restrictions as cheerily as possible to Dad, but there's only so much of a pig that lipstick will cover.
I believe it's no coincidence that the next morning he gave up and stopped eating and drinking altogether, though I didn't fully find that out until much later when I ordered a Records DB dump of his food and liquids intake.
I kept praying that the lockdown would be over soon, and kept his and my hopes up that it couldn't last forever ... surely not more than a month. ... OK, surely not more than 2 months. ... OK, surely not......
"The difference in their lives has been technology. I got my parents a tablet, showed my dad how to use zoom."
From the beginning 2+ years ago, I knew that would make a major difference for him. But because of extreme arthritis that mostly immobilized his left arm, using two hands was problematic and he couldn't master the use of the tablet I bought. (OTOH my mother-in-law - who lived 4 hrs from here and was only 2 months younger than my Dad - mastered her tablets quickly, and could even initiate videochat sessions with family).
After the lockdown started, we did buy Dad a cordless phone for several good reasons, and then paid a therapist to teach him how to use the phone since we weren't allowed inside. Still, he didn't 100% get the hang of it.
That's wonderful you were able to get electronic communications established with your parents! I know how big a difference it made with my wife's Mom.
I’m really sorry you and your family went through such an experience. I pray you find comfort in knowing your dad is safely home now. 2 Corinthians 1:3-5
Oh believe me, we do!!
I am really sorry for your loss.
What you describe, and we all know it’s been going on, is a horrible evil to impose on people. It’s inhuman to treat people this way. And to see people support and cheer it on is another disheartening evil I never thought I’d see from Americans.
My mother in law same! She’s 96 and bored and depressed.
Thank you for sharing that. Bless you.
“a very pleasant prison but still a prison.”
And we can’t really be assured that it is pleasant. Elder abuse occurs in nursing homes when families can visit. I don’t even want to think about what could be going on when staff knows that there’s no chance of being observed or caught.
Mom is 96 and we’re blessed that my brother’s family moved into the homestead to take care of her. She’s healthy mentally and physically, so it isn’t a dreadful situation.
Trust me, living with a 96 year old is about ten times more difficult than a sibling who isn’t there realizes. Even if she is “all there.”
It isn’t easy for the caretaker sibling or the 96-year-old, as both lives are diminished in some manner. In our case it’s a win-win for all concerned. Mom gets to stay in her home instead of gong to a bad facility, as we couldn’t afford one that’s $5,000+ a month. Bro gets the house forever.
It isn’t easy for Brother’s family. And Mom isn’t in charge of her own home any more as another woman is Lady Of The House.
All lives are disrupted to some degree. That’s true whether it’s a parent and child sharing a home, siblings, spouses, or just roommates. Accommodations and compromises always are a factor.
Sis and I bring her south for the winter and everyone adjusts again.
It’s real simple. Quarantine is when you restrict the movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people. Stupidity is when you cannot tell the difference.*
*posted on 10/14/2020, 7:06:25 AM by USA Conservative
Lab Coat Tyranny: California is using “public health” as a rationale to push progressive political goals.
City Journal ^ | 10/9/2020 | Christopher F. Rufo
Posted on 10/9/2020, 3:26:26 PM by RightGeek
Public health authorities in California have unveiled a “Blueprint for a Safer Economy” that requires counties to meet new “health equity metrics” in order to emerge from the current Covid-19 lockdowns.
It’s a broad experiment in social justice. Under the plan, counties must reduce “disparities in levels of transmission” in “low-income, Black, Latino, [and] Pacific Islander” communities before they can move forward with reopening. In effect, local businesses must remain closed until local bureaucrats are satisfied that ill-defined racial quotas have been met.
The underlying assumption of the blueprint is that race-based coronavirus disparities are the result of “systemic racism,” despite zero evidence that the state’s coronavirus policies have been discriminatory.
The plan ignores potential differences in culture, behavior, and underlying health, resting instead on the premise that racism is the driving force behind every disparate outcome.
The blueprint also subverts the democratic process. Un elected public health officials are restricting essential freedoms, including mobility, worship, and economic activity, without deliberation by the state legislature or the possibility of review or appeal.
Unfortunately, the California blueprint is just part of a broader pattern of state governments using public health as a rationale for seizing power.
Throughout the pandemic, blue-state politicians have appealed to science as justification for long-term economic lockdowns, mask mandates, and other emergency measures, regardless of whether these policies have been sanctioned by state legislatures or voters. Science becomes the highest authority; citizens must obey.
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