Posted on 09/29/2020 11:15:17 AM PDT by knighthawk
Just hours before the first presidential debate, two polls released Tuesday show Joe Biden with a considerable nine-point lead against Donald Trump in the battleground state of Pennsylvania as a vast majority of nationwide voters say debate performances wont change their minds about who theyre voting for.
A Washington Post/ABC News poll taken September 21-26 shows that 54 per cent of likely voters in the swing state plan to cast their ballot for the Democratic nominee compared to the 45 per cent who say they will vote for the president.
At the same time, a national survey from Politico/Morning Consult released Tuesday shows the three upcoming debates between the two presidential candidates wont make much of a difference to voters.
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the Daily Mail pushes far leftist causes and candidacies like the NYSlime and WashedUPost do
its only redeeming content is its “human interest” and “cat” and “dog” stories
sort of like the National Enquirer, Light
My concern is that these obviously bogus polls are being put out there to provide deniability when mail-in vote fraud succeeds. IOW, “Well, several polls predicted a Biden win, so there’s no reason to suspect fraud.”
Don’t foeget that many state’s voter registrations have shown more shifting from Democrat to Republican than vice versa.
To put this in perspective (of just how ludicrous this is)
For Biden to win PA by this sort OT margin you are saying Biden is going to perform like Obama in 2008 and Trump will perform like McCain
Its ludicrous in its face. This poll is as idiotic as the Hillary polls showing her up 8 in PA and 10 in GA. Its nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
Small sample, less than 600 Likely Voters
Female= 53%, Male = 47%
D=38%
R=32%
I=23%
Other =5%
I don’t know what day it is = 2%
So, +6 Democrat over GOP, +6 female over Male.
Seems fair to me! (/sarc)
I am right there with you!!
I find these polls so very hard to believe. They are aimed at stupid sheeple.
I believe you!!!
Ha!! Dr. Jill and her audience of 4-5!!!!
And the 32% gop is oversampling suburban bs rural and college education vs high school
If Biden is leading PA by 9 points at this late stage, there is ZERO reason for him to debate, even if there were a marginal hit to his poll numbers for doing so. It would be more of an indication of an anti-Trump sentiment.
It may well be though that more females do vote than males these days (they do I think—not sure about PA), and there may also be 6% more Dems than GOP in PA (not sure about that either).
This is the type of garbage we will see until 7 PM EST Election night when Grandpa Groundhog’s chances of winning drop from 90% to 9% then flat lines.
Both seem demographically correct for PA.
Why are you on every damn thread trying to create angst among freepers about polls? You and your boyfriend CatOwner coming in here daily with one mantra, that Biden is winning. It’s pathetic.
This poll is a JOKE....
Basically to believe this poll, you are saying Binden is going to perform in PA like OBAMA did in 2008, and Trump is going to perform like McCain... its absolute garbage, and laughable on its face.
I have lived in PA other than 15 months since 1986, and I cannot compare what I am seeing for Trump here with ANY other candidate ever. I was very confident Trump would win PA and the entire upper midwest, sans MN and IL last cycle and stated it many times.. His platform of attacking “free” trade and Illegals was custom designed for this region that had been absolutely destroyed by decades of both parties selling America out.
4 years ago, many people stayed home or voted for Hillary out of fear, and belief that Trump was just another politician saying anything but going to do nothing...
4 years later, those voters won’t fall for the fear mongering and won’t stay home, they have seen directly the impact the Trump administration has had for this region, and they will indeed show up.
Its comical, absolutely comical, for anyone to be telling you Trump is going to LOSE up here.. he’s not... only MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD.. like NEVER EVER seen before is the ONLY prayer for the D’s up here.
The ONLY state in the upper midwest where Trump may underperform 16 is Ohio, and that’s because of DeWine’s handling of Covid.
The Covid nonsense is going to cost folks big time, and neither party seems to see it.. .This election will be the first time voters are going to be able to directly voice their anger at this crap.. And In PA, the Dems are going to get slaughtered... same thing to a lesser extend in MI, WI and MN as well... This Dynamic will be against GOP/DeWine in OH... because there is a GOP governor there who has stupidly done a lot of silly things... none as silly as PA, and MI etc.. but still silly and still angering the populace.
Any poll showing Biden up, let alone up significantly ANYWHERE up here, other than IL... is a joke... BEST case for Biden would be a surprise squeaker somewhere up this part of the country at BEST... so any poll showing him up and up big up here is just garbage on its face.
That's the prediction for this election.
I dont think the debates have historically proven to be game-changers, so Im not counting on that..
Sorry as a resident of PA for over 30 years.. to believe this poll is accurate, you are accepting that Biden is going to perform like Obama did in 2008 and Trump is going to perform like McCain did... and if you believe that, you have never ever set a foot in PA.
I have NEVER, EVER seen the kind of thing going on here, that I have seen for Trump.. even in 16 when I was very confident Trump was going to take PA.... Even that is NOWHERE near to what is going on here in this state.
I tell a joke, but its not a joke....
When I drive around PA, and I leave the city centers, the very unscientific yard sign poll shows Biden running a very distant third..... Behind Trump and Corn For Sale.
The rural parts of PA are more republican, but nothing like this... I am not saying its 2 or 3 to 1 signage, not even 10 to 1 signage, but easily, easily 20 to 1 signage... Never ever seen anything like it.
The only prayer D’s have is MASSIVE, and I mean unprecedented levels of fraud.. orders of magnitude beyond anything before type of fraud.
Add in the absolute insanity that has been Wolf and Cousin Its edicts and nonsense around Covid, and there is NO prayer in PA for Biden and the Dems.... let alone some Obama first term victory spread.
This poll is just as stupid as the 2016 poll showing Hillary up 8 in PA and up 10 in GA... just abject stupidity for anyone to believe it... even the people publishing know its garbage....
Thanks for that reassuring response. Glad to hear Trump is strong in PA.
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