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Posted on 09/12/2020 2:09:39 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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You cannot change the fact the cop knelt on his neck for 8 minutes.
That is irrelevant. The black was resisting arrest and had to be subdued. The restraint was necessary to prevent injury to the various cops present and to ensure the black criminal’s violations of the cops civil rights to a safe work places ended.
The judgement of the cops on the scene is superior to those on the back row of the peanut gallery
Why do you refer to him as “the black”? His skin color is irrelevant.
The cause of death is a question of fact that must be addressed by the court.
There are some major problems to securing a conviction in this case -
The fatal dose of fentanyl along with other drugs in his system. I think any rational doctor would say that there was a chance that George Floyd would have died no matter the actions of the officers. The media and public opinion can overlook this, but it will be much different in a court.
There was no trauma inflicted by the officers. Yes, you can restrict a persons breathing by weight upon them, but even being “handcuffed” creates this effect. The officers knee is placed exactly where the instructor has his positioned on the training materials for MPD. The close-up view from the video DOES NOT show the officer with his knee directly on the neck.
The enlarged heart and alleged recovery from Covid (decrease of lung capacity) are also factors. We are learning that the China virus can do significant damage to the lungs - even among healthy football players from what I have read. I would expect this to be referenced heavily by the defense along with the lethal dose of fentanyl.
There is nothing that I have seen or heard that actually indicates a racial bias or even intent on the part of the officers. Sure, the media and public opinion have made this claim, but in a court you need proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Perhaps the biggest one is “qualified immunity.” For those who took the time to view the training presentation of MPD, it appears that the officer followed the policy to the letter for “excited delirium”. We can all argue about changes to the policy, but do not forget that the officer is judged on the policy in effect on the date of the event.
This case was overcharged. The two rookies have no authority over the senior officers. The other more experienced officer was not even engaged with Floyd. He was in front of the onlookers. I believe the charges require them to show intent. The exchanges between the officers and Floyd were generally courteous and did not demonstrate any malice for those who viewed it in its entirety.
The courtroom is far more antiseptic than the media and public mobs so you can throw much of the “noise” out the window.
Regardless of the verdicts, there will be riots again. Minneapolis cannot afford any further economic destruction, but it appears they are doomed either way.
One obvious change that may come out of this case as far as national policy will be the administration of narcan in all such cases. One might make a reasonable argument that this might have changed the outcome (reversed the opiate depression), but again, it was not the policy on the date this occurred and I am not aware of any department that does this currently?
“Beyond a reasonable doubt” is a difficult bar for a jury and in this case there are several issues that would have to be decided to this standard in order to secure a conviction. There will be overwhelming pressure on the jury in this case due to the overwhelming public opinion and yes, without a doubt, the last few minutes of that video are hard to watch.
However, the jury will hear and see the entire event multiple times within the courtroom and they will have FAR MORE data upon which to decide the case including significant information that has been largely ignored in the media reports and the public discussion.
All of us are largely reliant on the media narrative regarding this event, but juries always hear and see far more than we will ever get via the media. There are a lot of significant hurdles for the prosecution in this case, but like the Ferguson case, most people have made up their mind.
No, the skin color is totally relevant because black men have determined they are duty bound to resist arrest.
To deny that fact is inherently racist.
A rational analysis @ post 35. I should have read yours before I wrote mine.
I am going to try and trust the jury on this one because as I wrote and you stated so well, the story in the courtroom to the jury is likely to be far different and much of the noise and knee-jerk reactions to this case will not be nearly as powerful.
I just read yout post, #46, also some very good info, and some things I didn’t point out, and covered it from different perspectives than I did. I didn’t try to get into the cop’s point of vew at all.
Can’t say I disagree with a thing you said, I’ll have to read it all again, nice write up.
Oh yeah, and thanks.
The entire Case boils down to Causation versus Contributory.
Did Floyd have the Kung Flu as well? If so, Quid Pro Joemmentia Hiden Biden the GropingPedo can blame POTUS Trump for Floyd’s death.
Floyd’s family has won the jackpot regardless of how the criminal trials turn out.
Yes, let the toxicology report decide this.
Chauvin, Lane, Kueng, and Thao: The George Floyd Fall Guys The four policemen charged in George Floyds death acted entirely according to the training and guidance provided them by the Minneapolis Police Department.
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