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2010: Cops furious at ‘don’t-kill’ bill (Vice President Joe Biden ‘scoffed’ at it)
New York Post ^ | May 25, 2010

Posted on 08/31/2020 8:47:29 PM PDT by 11th_VA

City cops are livid over a legislative proposal that could handcuff the brave officers involved in life-and-death confrontations every day — requiring them to shoot gun-wielding suspects in the arm or leg rather than shoot to kill, The Post has learned.

The “minimum force” bill, which surfaced in the Assembly last week, seeks to amend the state penal codes’ “justification” clause that allows an officer the right to kill a thug if he feels his life or someone else’s is in imminent danger.

“It’s moronic and would create two sets of rules in the streets if there is a gunfight. This legislation would require officers to literally shoot the gun out of someone’s hand or shoot to wound them in the leg or arm. I don’t know of any criminal who doesn’t shoot to kill. They are not bound by any restrictions.”...

Paladino, whose association represents 5,100 investigators, said he showed the bill last week to Vice President Joe Biden, who scoffed and suggested it be dubbed “The John Wayne Bill” because it demands sharp-shooting skills of the kind only seen in movies.

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1 posted on 08/31/2020 8:47:29 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

I agree with it and was actually shocked to learn it wasn’t already the law.


2 posted on 08/31/2020 8:51:16 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: 11th_VA

Dig up The Lone Ranger to teach the class.


3 posted on 08/31/2020 8:54:58 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: 11th_VA

>> requiring them to shoot gun-wielding suspects in the arm or leg rather than shoot to kill,

17 year old shot a potential killer in the arm and the Left is outraged and the armed felon regrets not opening on the kid and killing him.


4 posted on 08/31/2020 8:55:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: 11th_VA

They had better dig up sharp shooters like Annie Oakley if this piece of cr@p bill passes.


5 posted on 08/31/2020 8:56:17 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: 11th_VA

I’d flat out quit if I were subjected to that. Those coming up with this kind of BS are clearly cop hating lunatics.


6 posted on 08/31/2020 8:59:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 11th_VA

More proof as if we needed any that the only thing libtards know about guns is what they see in movies.


7 posted on 08/31/2020 8:59:27 PM PDT by jarwulf
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To: yldstrk

I hope you’re joking.


8 posted on 08/31/2020 9:00:10 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: 11th_VA

Those guys have been watching way to many westerns.


9 posted on 08/31/2020 9:03:42 PM PDT by Datom69
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To: dinodino

I am not. I had no idea it was ok for cops to shoot to kill. I thought they were just supposed to stop the bad guy so he could be arrested.


10 posted on 08/31/2020 9:04:07 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: 11th_VA

Remember, when there is a savage attack and you’re the hunted being eaten, aim only at their legs or arms. If possible, try to hit one of their toes to minimize injury severity.


11 posted on 08/31/2020 9:13:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: yldstrk

No one is taught to shoot to wound

if you need to shoot its to stop the threat

and that means stopping the threat by solid hits to center of mass, not trying to only hit hands and feet and ‘wing’ people

you want them to go down, not keep on being able to fight

you are not in the right mindset for when one has to fight for their own life against an armed attacker


12 posted on 08/31/2020 9:15:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: yldstrk

You are certainly joking. It’s idiotic to think the police would or should use their firearms to shoot people in the arm or the leg.


13 posted on 08/31/2020 9:17:11 PM PDT by Ajnin (Don't be a pansy, embrace the fireball.)
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To: yldstrk

Cops already can only use deadly force if necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm or to prevent a suspect from fleeing if the suspect presents such a threat to the public. They cannot shoot someone just to make an arrest.

To require an officer, or anyone, in a situation where deadly force is justified —that means a situation where life is already at stake—to shoot someone in the arm or leg is asinine.


14 posted on 08/31/2020 9:17:54 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: dragnet2
Note: This article was from 2010; here’s what Joe said last week:

Biden suggests police could shoot assailants 'in the leg instead of the heart'

Link

15 posted on 08/31/2020 9:18:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA (DonÂ’t Be a thug, if you canÂ’t take a slug)
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To: yldstrk

people amped on adrenaline and drugs can still keep slashing and bashing you to death for 30 seconds or more even with a heart shot and/or other lethal shots to the body

and they can still have drug fueled excess human power

the body doesnt know its dead yet and keeps going

cop histories dealing with these types of encounters prove it time and again


16 posted on 08/31/2020 9:18:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Biden suggests police could shoot assailants 'in the leg instead of the heart'

He's still thinking about kids playing with his hairy legs. Gak.

17 posted on 08/31/2020 9:26:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Maybe Joe wants the police to shoot 'em in the nuts, thereby transgendering them, then they can be housed in the transgender wing of the prison, with all of the rights of all the other democrat transgenders accommodated there.

18 posted on 08/31/2020 9:27:29 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

Or maybe aim for their ears. Try to pierce their earlobes.


19 posted on 08/31/2020 9:29:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 11th_VA
What a bunch of morons... If the first shot is justifiable so are the next 15. Each deadly force incident is it's own animal. Most gunfights are within 10 yards or less. Most are over in mere seconds. While it sounds nice to be able to “just wing them”, that is hardly ever a real option. I guarantee the bad guy isn't looking to "just wing" the officer. As a cop, you hope that you will never have to take someones life. Most officers never have to. But, if deadly force is what is required to end the threat to the public and the officer, then centermass is the best option. Not a headshot, they are to small. Not arms or legs, they are too small and usually moving. "Just winging them" happens in the movies, not real life. If the officer misses and hits someone else then the cop is in deep poo poo. If the bad guy is wounded, it doesn't mean he going to give up. If the wounded bad guy ends up harming or killing a member of the public, then the cop is in deep poo poo. Each situation is (pardon the pun) what it is. Just my honest opinion, your mileage may vary.
20 posted on 08/31/2020 9:47:31 PM PDT by centermass_socrates (Keep it clean, keep it loaded, and keep it handy..)
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