Posted on 08/30/2020 2:38:12 PM PDT by familyop
John Adams was said to have smoked weed according to some sources.
I'm the only one who's displayed any logic and reasoning in this exchange. Perhaps you'd care to try? Free clue: "(toke) ...dude...wow...oh yahhhh..." doesn't qualify.
Sure, why not, I’ll play.
“...a 2017 review of research by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine found that “there is substantial evidence of a statistical association between cannabis use and the development of schizophrenia or other psychoses, with the highest risk among the most frequent users.””
“Many libertarians and a growing number of conservatives argue that legalization is the “pro-freedom” position. Actually, the exact opposite is true. Marijuana use attacks, degrades, and impairs the very thing that allows us to act freely: our brains.”
“A recent study conducted by the Centennial Institute looked at Colorado’s legalization regime and found that for every $1 of tax revenue generated by marijuana taxes, Coloradans paid $4.50 to mitigate marijuana-related social costs stemming from the health-care and education systems, accidental poisonings, impaired driving, and increased court costs, among other.”
“...why did Prohibition end up failing? Historians generally agree that lack of attention to enforcement—and not its impracticality—constituted its downfall.”
“...in the United States, only 800-2,300 inmates were incarcerated for marijuana possession alone. That makes up a grand total of 0.1-0.2 percent of the entire prison population.”
“Most drug arrests happen when an individual is stopped and searched for other crimes. The image of SWAT officers barging into a home for a small baggie of weed is not representative of how the vast majority of police departments approach drug enforcement.”
“Another study, published in The Lancet, found that “people who used cannabis had greater pain and lower self-efficacy in managing pain, and there was no evidence that cannabis use reduced pain severity or interference or exerted an opioid-sparing effect.””
https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/07/7-arguments-legalizing-marijuana-no-one-believe/
Your replies will be predictable...
does not demonstrate causation.
Marijuana use attacks, degrades, and impairs the very thing that allows us to act freely: our brains.”
Ditto for alcohol.
“A recent study conducted by the Centennial Institute looked at Colorado’s legalization regime and found that for every $1 of tax revenue generated by marijuana taxes, Coloradans paid $4.50 to mitigate marijuana-related social costs stemming from the health-care and education systems, accidental poisonings, impaired driving, and increased court costs, among other.”
I'll have to look into this one - but dollars to donuts the "marijuana-related social costs" are inflated.
“...why did Prohibition end up failing? Historians generally agree
LOL! They cite ONE historian in support - and he provides a supporting link to PERHAPS ONE other.
Your replies will be predictable...
Yet rather than head me off at the pass by pre-emptively rebutting them, you're content to copy and paste.
The report claims that Colorado spends $4.50 to mitigate the effects of marijuana legalization per dollar gained in tax revenue. However, the authors do not include cost estimates for years prior to legalization. In both the social sciences and the medical field, researchers often attempt to isolate the impact of a change in one group (the “treatment group”) from a similar group (the “control group”). In this case, the authors could have compared the current costs per year since legalization to annual costs prior to legalization when marijuana was consumed illicitly. Because the authors fail to attempt to isolate the impact, no peerreviewed academic journal would consider the findings credible (Wing et al., 2018).
A true cost-benefit analysis would include all the benefits of legalization– not just state tax revenues. These include added local tax revenues, income taxes, reduced incarceration costs, decreased policing costs, and lower legal fees. Similarly, the report fails to estimate the impact of public investments made using new tax revenue from legalized marijuana. For example, the first $40 million in state revenue from cannabis sales taxes is dedicated to school construction projects in Colorado, which boosts the local economy, creates jobs, and can enhance educational outcomes for students through improved environments for learning (e.g., see Whaley, 2018). These “multiplier effects,” or ripple effects, are absent from the analysis.
Most glaringly, the authors fail to include the impact of legalization on economic activity, or gross state product (GSP), on the benefits side of the equation. This is a remarkable omission in a cost-benefit analysis. If one were to take a this approach to the U.S. manufacturing industry, the inevitable recommendation would be to halt the production of all goods in America. That’s because there are significant costs of making goods, such as pollution, the price of materials, the costs of hiring and firing workers, and the increase in congestion and traffic accidents from welders and machinists driving to work instead of staying unemployed at home (among other costs). These costs generally exceed the total corporate and property taxes collected from manufacturing companies. Why then do we produce anything at all in America? The answer is because the manufacturing industry grows the U.S. economy, creates jobs, and supports other industries like retail and construction. In the case of marijuana legalization, residents and visitors spent more than $760 million on legal recreational marijuana in Colorado in the 12 months between July 2017 and June 2018 (Manzo et al., 2018). Ignoring this economic activity altogether is another blemish in the Centennial Institute’s analysis.
Moreover, the authors erroneously consider certain items “costs” when they should instead be listed as “benefits.” Marijuana arrests represent their biggest mistake. The authors report report that taxpayer expenditures on marijuanarelated arrests fell from $14.8 million in 2012 before legalization to $7.2 million in 2017 post-legalization (Centennial Institute, 2018). The authors inexplicably use the 2017 figure of $7.2 million and call it a “cost” of legalized marijuana despite the fact that costs have mathematically fallen by $7.6 million per year since legalization. This should obviously be listed as a benefit, not a cost.
OK.
My heart tells me it’s not a good thing, as did my experiences with my son and a nephew. Adding in pot along with booze...I disagree. You’ll not change my mind.
“My heart tells me”
As I said, “a position you were never reasoned into.”
“it’s not a good thing”
Nor is alcohol; problem is that prohibition, with its enrichment of violent criminals, is worse.
So you’d want an amendment for each illegal drug? That would be a long constitution.
Just a bad parent.
Wow. What kind of neighborhood do you live in? Lol.
Thankfully not where not anywhere near where that happened.
Nope. Wrong.
That has been crossbreed out the yahoo. Corn plants use to yield fruit about the size of a thumb, pot plants used to be fairly harmless. Not so much anymore.
You put all things under his feet. For in making man the ruler over all things, God did not put anything outside his authority; though we do not see everything under him now. Hebrews 2:8
Chances are, the ones you have seen become lifelong pizza drivers were destined to become delivery drivers anyway.
I’ve seen lots of law enforcement, Dr’s, lawyers, business owners and lots of multimillionaires smoke weed and some even eat shrooms once in awhile.
Joe Rogan is a good example. Smokes lots of pot and does shrooms now and again. Guys is driving to stay in the best physical condition possible. Just signed 100 million dollar deal to leave you tube and go to some other place.
Myself an a lifelong libertarian that has way more conservative values than liberal. Perhaps we should consider leaving the judging to God and be a little more accepting of people who don’t life live exactly as you do.
I’m pretty sure god put that cannabis plant here along with mushrooms.
Put the kids down.
Leave a note.
Go drinking.
Is that a bad choice? Ha ha.
“can’t respond directly and instead have to make arguments that don’t actually answer my question.”
It’s his stock in trade. One wonders what motivates such behavior.
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