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To: Williams

Do we have video evidence that he was attacked prior to the first shooting? He clearly is chased and attacked by the skateboard guy. But he had shot someone in the head before that, correct? Is there a video of the first shooting? I’ve only seen the aftermath.


There are a number of videos from different sources. What I can determine he tried to leave the area but the police were pushing everyone in the same direction. He had been identified as a target by the mob and there there were gunshots (not clear if they were at him or not) but that is when he shot the first person.

Again he tried to flee and they chased him down. While on the ground they continued the attack and it is here when he shot the other two.

There is a photo of one of his assailants with a pistol.

The prosecutor did not investigate before charging him with murder.

I predict that most of the charges will be tossed.

As for someone underage with a weapon, I think it will make an interesting court case. The whole purpose of the 2nd amendment is to allow individual to be armed to defend themselves. There is no age limit on the 2nd amendment.

Actually until recent history it was perfectly normal for young men to own guns and even take them to school or scout meetings.

If a young person is not allowed to be armed during a violent riot then our laws are insane and should be overturned.


9 posted on 08/30/2020 5:33:07 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Agreed.
Kyle’s age shouldn’t be an issue.
If someone says it is, I would argue, “So because there was no law enforcement presence and because Kyle was seventeen, he deserved to be murdered for defending his life?”


12 posted on 08/30/2020 5:39:11 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Actually until recent history it was perfectly normal for young men to own guns and even take them to school or scout meetings.

I have a friend who was on the rifle team at Bishop Dubois High School in Manhattan in the 1950's. They carried their rifles at sling arms on the subway going from school to Knightsbridge Armory in the Bronx. He says he was questioned one time by a transit policeman, who didn't make an issue out of it. IIRC, even back in those halcyon days it was illegal to carry firearms on the subway

Can you imagine the reaction if a bunch of high school kids was carrying rifles on the NYC subway today? Five boroughs would be in lockdown. CNN would go into meltdown. They would be characterized as smirking little snots on every news network save one or two.

13 posted on 08/30/2020 5:40:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Actually until recent history it was perfectly normal for young men to own guns and even take them to school or scout meetings.

I might be showing my age, but we used to take guns to school all the time. When dove season started, I used to take my shotgun to school on the school bus and keep it in my locker so I could go hunting after school. When I became old enough to drive to school and owned a truck, I used to keep guns in the truck in the school parking lot.

20 posted on 08/30/2020 6:10:12 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“Actually until recent history it was perfectly normal for young men to own guns and even take them to school or scout meetings.”

When I lived in Charlotte, an older co-worker told me that when he was in high school in NC, it was completely normal to bring a rifle to school, because operating and shooting a rifle was part of gym class. He brought his back and forth to school on a school bus(!). I got the impression that he grew up in a poor rural area and shooting/hunting was probably an important adult survival skill at the time. Maybe it still is. And this says a lot about the relative maturity of most teen-agers today vs. 70 years ago.


23 posted on 08/30/2020 6:19:01 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

When I was in college, I had a shotgun in my dorm room. The ag school grew special crop fields especially for dove shooting. I was trained to shoot a rifle on the ROTC rifle range as were all male freshmen.

I transferred and lived in a house where several kept shotguns for duck season.


25 posted on 08/30/2020 6:24:50 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies.....all of them)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“As for someone underage with a weapon, I think it will make an interesting court case. The whole purpose of the 2nd amendment is to allow individual to be armed to defend themselves. There is no age limit on the 2nd amendment.”

The Militia law clearly states...all able bodied males from 17 to...


29 posted on 08/30/2020 6:29:18 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Slo-Joe Biden... puts the DEM in Dementia.)
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I am 75. When I was in grammar school, my brother brought his rifle on the school bus to have it after school for the rifle team. I carried the box of bullets.


102 posted on 08/30/2020 9:11:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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