NYC grocers alarmed by uptick in theft, quality of life crimes

aol ^ | Aug 22nd 2020 | MICHAEL GARTLAND

[caww]

People are filling their back packs with merchandise with no fear the law will catch up with them.....they actually tell the store owners the law, that they’re not gonna get locked up......and of course broadcasting no arrests for retail theft was the biggest mistake the city ever made.

[PeterPrinciple]

what is a quality of life crime?

https://open.lib.umn.edu/criminallaw/chapter/12-1-quality-of-life-crimes/

didn’t know it either.

[dynachrome]

“broadcasting no arrests for retail theft was the biggest mistake the city ever made.”

I don’t believe it was a mistake.

[caww]

Just fill it up and walk out the door - reperations

[bert]

-——It’s “reparations”, doncha know.-——

Actually it’s New York. The message is that if you are in New York it is foolish to be in the Grocery Business.

New York is for African Criminals, not Americans

[VideoDoctor]

NYC's lack of LEADERSHIP is to blame.

Let those suffering LEARN..."You Reap What You Sow"

[WashingtonSource]

A favorite shibboleth of the Left when a strong argument is put forth is to say that “that argument has been debunked.”

I’ve never seen a case where any conservative argument has been debunked.

Of course, they don’t even explain how it was debunked because they can’t.

It’s just a statement they use to change the subject.

Conservatives should respond by challenging it.

“That tired old claim doesn’t hold water,” would be my response.

[Miss Didi]

Can someone help me out here? I'm a country bumpkin, so maybe I don't know s--t about big city life: How the Hell can you run a grocery store in the biggest, most diverse, most taxed, most regulated, and most congested city in the U.S.?

Are there even carts? Hand-baskets? Or does NYC's version of grocery stores consist of convenience stores and mini-marts on corners?

I'm just trying to wrap my head around on how if you need, for example, milk and toothpaste, you're not taking the subway and carrying it back to your 450 sq ft, $2,200 a month studio apartment.

We have all sorts of grocery-type stores in Manhattan...from chain supermarkets to health food stores to small bodegas. We use shopping carts and small baskets. Since Big Fredo put in the plastic bag ban, some stores started charging 5 cents for a shopping bag so you can bring a tote. However, during the virus they have let it slide and most stores are providing bags again. We also have fruit/veggie stands on every other corner which are great for in-season produce. I try to support them as much as I can as they are there every day, rain or shine, all day long. As far as getting home with bags from the grocery store, the fruit man or Bed Bath & Beyond we just carry them or schlep...it's good for the arms. And if you can't, you jump in a cab, hop on a bus or have it delivered.

[Miss Didi]

There are few grocery stores. The stores have hand baskets. Most kitchen are small even the refrigerators are small. You pick up a few things at a small, neighborfood store. People eat out.

That is not true at all. In my Manhattan neighborhood I can walk a few blocks and find several major supermarkets, quite a few Italian specialty stores, health food stores as well as bakeries, pastry shops, meat markets, outdoor farmer markets, fruit/veggie stands, etc. Apartment kitchens are smaller, and we don't have lots of storage space for stocking up, but people still grocery shop, cook at home, and eat in.

[Junk Silver]

“I’ve never seen a case where any conservative argument has been debunked.”

The notion that no conservative argument has ever truly been debunked is itself a conspiracy theory which has already been debunked.

So there.

[WashingtonSource]

Your response no doubt was meant as sarcasm (I hope) and as such an example, it is a typical leftist response of deflection and misstating the conservative’s argument.

I never said there has never been a case where any conservative argument has been debunked.

Instead, I said, “I’ve never seen a case where any conservative argument has been debunked.”

Secondly, you go beyond the misstatement of what I said to add a second line of attack and mischaracterize my original statement as a conspiracy theory.

I am the only person who can attest to what I have seen or not seen. There is no conspiracy.

[SamAdams76]

I'm actually a fan of the supermarkets in and around Manhattan. They need to be creative to make use of every square inch of space. Imagine a 100,000 sq. ft. Wegman's crammed into a tiny 2,500 sq. ft. space wedged on a corner of 2nd Ave and 63rd St for example. They just find a way to make it work while offering the same variety of goods.

It's super expensive though, compared to what you find in the suburbs. The Kerrygold cheese is $7 compared to $2.50 at the Big Y in Danbury, CT. But people who live there generally don't even look at the price.

There are hardware stores in the city that are also amazing. They have these tiny little stores that have pretty much anything you could find in a Home Deport or Lowe's.

[Junk Silver]

I was of course being sarcastic, but as you point out this demonstrates the futility of arguing with a Leftist.

They’ll deflect, mischaracterize your statements, put words in your mouth and if none of that works they’ll see if they can get you banned or arrested for your beliefs (which have already been debunked anyway.)

[gcparent]

Shopped at Zabars and Fairway and other small places you mentioned when I lived in NYC. Not a lot of big grocery stores as in the suburbs. No car to transport groceries. Young singles don’t cook.

[LegendHasIt]

Thanks. My ‘definition’ makes more sense than the SJW law school definition though.

[Graybeard58]

From 1% to 7% is an “uptick”?

[fortes fortuna juvat]

hundreds of independent supermarket owners around the city complaining the NYPD hasn’t been responsive enough when they call.
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Wonder who the grocers have been voting for?