[robowombat]

If the left coast wishes to secede let them. This will, I suspect, lead to a West Virginia scenario in both Washington and Oregon where groups of patriots may organize and intrastate secession, possibly in California also. People in the US in 1860 really had no idea that a national holocaust was on the way and those in the South who did thought it would be a big version of First Manasses.

[laconic]

I know Washington and Oregon states well; the interior 2/3 of each state would never join the leftists on the coast. Same for upstate New York or northwest or south New Jersey, entirely different value systems that would never accept the Abtifa types running their lives.

[workerbee]

The Left doesn’t want to secede, they want to rule. Power over those they hate and believe inferior (i.e., us) is their greatest dream.