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Pa. targeted mitigation order FAQs: What counts as a meal at a bar? How it applies to weddings, schools, more
Pennlive ^ | 21 July A.D. 2020 | Greg Pickel

Posted on 07/21/2020 7:01:57 AM PDT by lightman

Gov. Tom Wolf’s administration has released a list of answers to frequently asked questions about his administration’s recently-announced targeted coronavirus mitigation order.

The new restrictions that were announced last week put gathering limitations back in place -- only 25 people can be at an inside event and 250 outside -- and also prohibits bar service. Additionally, customers can only consume alcohol at a bar, restaurant, or food service business on-site if they purchase a meal. Music and night clubs must close, as well.

“We know what will happen if we wait until cases rise exponentially before taking action,” Health Department Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine said last week. “The numbers would continue to increase in our entire state. We then [would] potentially have to quarantine.

“By acting now, and making these specific and targeted mitigation efforts statewide, we can get ahead of the curve and ensure that not only our hospitals and health care system be available to patients, but the economy will survive, while still saving lives.”

Bars and restaurants were quick to question the definition of a meal. Would a bag of pretzels suffice, or would a hot dog or slice of pizza be needed? We now have that answer.

“The PA Liquor Code defines a “meal” as “food prepared on the premises, sufficient to constitute breakfast, lunch or dinner; it shall not mean a snack, such as pretzels, popcorn, chips or similar food.” [47 P.S. § 4-406(e)].” the Wolf administration FAQ writes.

You can find the full document at the link below, but first we’ve picked out the answers to some of the most asked questions. All answers are courtesy of the Wolf administration:

What is an event or gathering?

An event or gathering is a temporary grouping of individuals who interact for defined purposes, that takes place over a limited timeframe, such as hours or days. For example, events and gatherings include fairs, festivals, concerts or shows and groupings that occur within larger, more permanent businesses, such as shows or performances within amusement parks, individual showings of movies on a single screen/auditorium within a multiplex, business meetings or conferences, or each party or reception within a venue.

Similarly, groups of people who share a space within a building in the ordinary course of operations, such as in an office building, classroom, production floor or similar regularly occurring operation of a business or organization, are not "events or gatherings."

Gatherings are subject to the lesser of the building occupancy limit or per-person limit (25 for indoor, 250 for outdoor) as in the Order.

How do these Orders apply to schools?

The Orders do not affect classroom settings but do restrict school activities outside of the classroom that are not related to educational instruction. School activities and gatherings not related to educational instruction that are held indoors are limited to no more than 25 people.

This includes meetings, assemblies, etc. Activities and gatherings held outdoors are limited to no more than 250 people.

How does this order apply to youth sports? Can my little league or children’s soccer team play?

Youth sports must follow the current Order’s limitation on events and gatherings.

For indoor games or practices, 25 people or less can attend. For outdoor games or practices, 250 people or less can attend. At all times, spectators and (when not engaged in play) players should keep social distancing and wear masks.

How does this apply to movie theaters and other multi-stage or venue facilities?

Movie theaters and other multi-stage, screen or venue facilities, may operate at 50% of the total occupancy stated on their occupancy permit, but individual showings of movies on a single screen/auditorium within a theater or multiplex (or the like for similar multi-screen, stage, or venue facilities) are individual events and are subject to the 25 person limitation.

For example, for a multi-screen movie theater, the total number of people in the theater must not exceed 50% of its total occupancy AND only 25 people are allowed per individual movie showing or to view the individual screen. Single screen theaters are limited to 25 attendees.

Are private catered events permitted? For example, when a graduation party or wedding is held in a local hall and catered, do those events adhere to the 25 person limit or the 25 percent maximum capacity for indoor dining?

A wedding or graduation party would be considered an event and therefore limited to 25 indoors/250 outdoors. If a facility is hosting multiple, separate events, the total of those events can’t exceed 25% occupancy. If the event organizer is planning to host more than 25 people in a single indoor location the event should not be held.

Can a wedding be held in a large facility with more than 25 people?

The limitation on indoor events or gatherings is not based on occupancy of a particular square footage. It is only defined by the number of people congregated together for that event. However, venues with multiple event spaces may have two events of 25 people or less at one time. If hosting multiple events organizers should be mindful of shared spaces like hallways or bathrooms where attendees may congregate.

Are patrons allowed to sit at the bar while at a restaurant or event?

For outdoor weddings and similar outdoor private events, attendees may be served alcohol at a bar, but must have an available seat where a meal is being served. For indoor weddings and private events complying with the 25 person limitation, table service is required.

How does the Order apply to food trucks?

Food trucks may not dispense wine, beer or liquor for on-premise consumption unless accompanied by a meal. Food trucks should also ensure that no more than 250 people are in the immediate area. Food truck festivals are limited to a gathering size of 250 people.

If alcohol is only served with a meal, can a person get a second or third drink?

Yes, there is no limit on the number of drinks that can be served, however, patrons should not linger at a restaurant after they have finished their meal.

Can breweries, distilleries and wineries still offer tastings?

The Order applies to breweries, distilleries, wineries or any entity which serves alcohol for on-site consumption. Tastings may occur IF accompanied by a meal (see question on the definition of a “meal”). For example, customers may purchase a tasting or glass of wine to drink on site but the winery must take steps to ensure that the customer has purchased a meal from a food truck on the property.

What is the definition of indoor vs. outdoor dining? Would a tent with walls be considered outdoor?

Indoor dining occurs in a fully or largely enclosed (2-walls or more) space. On the other hand, outdoor dining occurs in a completely or largely open air space (open on three sides).

How does this Order apply to casinos and casino floor service?

Any restaurant or food service in the casinos must follow the Order, including but not limited to the 25% occupancy rate for all indoor (casino) dining.

Second, any events held on casino grounds must follow the gathering or event size limitations (25 people or less for an indoor event, 250 people or less for outdoor event).

Third, casinos must follow the Order’s requirements on serving alcohol – alcohol can only be served alongside and as part of the same transaction as a meal (see question about the definition of a “meal”). Drink service on the casino floor is prohibited under the Order.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bars; levine; openpa; wolf
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So much for a bar food $1.00 value menu offering "Wolf chips" or "Levine nuts".
1 posted on 07/21/2020 7:01:57 AM PDT by lightman
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; PaulZe; brityank; Physicist; ...

Pennsylvania Ping!

Please ping me with articles of interest.

FReepmail me to be added to the list.

2 posted on 07/21/2020 7:02:40 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

what about the MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION?

Did tranny Rachel get his MOM out of the nursing home
in time before he and the Governor murdered all the
elderly, innocent, unable-to-protect-themselves,
Republicans?????


3 posted on 07/21/2020 7:07:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: lightman

The technology for vaccinations exists.

It’s time to allow people to get vaccinated and get back to normal living.


4 posted on 07/21/2020 7:07:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: lightman

Micromanaging people’s lives while screwing up major government responsibilities. The very definition of liberal.


5 posted on 07/21/2020 7:10:39 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: lightman
there is no limit on the number of drinks that can be served, however, patrons should not linger at a restaurant after they have finished their meal.

That's not what the person on the phone at the LCB told our local legion.

Just goes to show what a fiasco this all is.

Our locals are being threatened with losing liquor licenses and fines they cannot afford.

6 posted on 07/21/2020 7:17:52 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Flick Lives

Too many rules. Too comfusing. Easier to stay and eat at home.


7 posted on 07/21/2020 7:18:11 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: lightman
if they purchase a meal

In NY one restaurant is selling Cuomo chips for $1. I think a better idea would be to sell Cuomo (is) nuts for $1.

8 posted on 07/21/2020 7:20:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: P.O.E.

Do beer nuts count as a meal?


9 posted on 07/21/2020 7:21:29 AM PDT by AU72
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To: lightman
What counts as a meal at a bar?


10 posted on 07/21/2020 7:34:07 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: lightman

Little Banquet Pot Pie and take 4 hours to eat it while drinking 8-10 beers


11 posted on 07/21/2020 7:53:36 AM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: AU72

Apparently not.

Problem is, there is so much conflicting info out there - who wants to risk tangling with the LCB vs. the governor’s edicts. Once they get you on their radar, they’re like rabid dogs. And the small venues don’t have the capital or legal means to fight back. They will swamp you with paperwork.

The WANT to shut places down. Makes them feel important, justifies their existence, and eliminates competition.

The competition is the casinos (vs. small games of chance) and the big chains (read: big donors).


12 posted on 07/21/2020 7:54:39 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: lightman

“We know what will happen if we wait until . . .”

Is that the current version of Pre-Crime?

Punish before the fact.


13 posted on 07/21/2020 8:00:08 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Diogenesis

The media and propaganda arm of the Dem Party dropped that issue, didn’t they? He/she never has a press conference where asked the really candid questions, just like Joe Biden. The election is rigged by this tactic.


14 posted on 07/21/2020 8:02:38 AM PDT by apoliticalone (SOCIAL JUSTICE is as much about justice as PATRIOT ACT is about patriotism.)
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To: Diogenesis

The media and propaganda arm of the Dem Party dropped that issue, didn’t they? He/she never has a press conference where asked the really candid questions, just like Joe Biden. The election is being rigged by this tactic.


15 posted on 07/21/2020 8:06:08 AM PDT by apoliticalone (SOCIAL JUSTICE is as much about justice as PATRIOT ACT is about patriotism.)
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To: apoliticalone

Sorry for dupl.post. I even went back to see if orig was posted.


16 posted on 07/21/2020 8:07:50 AM PDT by apoliticalone (SOCIAL JUSTICE is as much about justice as PATRIOT ACT is about patriotism.)
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To: Brian Griffin

No need when theres already an effective treatment, kid

You go first


17 posted on 07/21/2020 8:31:37 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: lightman

I need more help from the Commonwealth. Would someone please tell me how to properly tie my shoes. Am I doing it the right way? Am I offending anyone in the way I tie my shoes. Do I do it one way if I am wearing socks and another if I am not? What do I need to do if I wear penny loafers? I have a pair of Topsiders that are permanently tied. Should I untie and retie them each time I wear them? Does it make a difference if I tie one pair of shoes one way and a different pair of shoes another? Is it racist to even tie my shoes? I’ve noticed “B”lacks often don’t tie their Nikes. If I do not tie my sneakers, do my pants have to fall off my butt? Please help me, I need someone from government to help make decisions for me!


18 posted on 07/21/2020 9:14:39 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: lightman
If alcohol is only served with a meal, can a person get a second or third drink? Yes, there is no limit on the number of drinks that can be served, however, patrons should not linger at a restaurant after they have finished their meal.

So I can now legally go in and have a couple of beers and a couple of shots of Tequila then after I finish my fried cheese I am supposed to get in my car and go home?

Thanks Gov.
19 posted on 07/21/2020 9:19:33 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: lightman

Does soup count as a meal?


20 posted on 07/21/2020 10:26:06 AM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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