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Royal Canadian Navy plans to replace 'seaman' with gender-neutral term
thepostmillennial.com ^ | Sam Edwards July 17, 2020 8:45 AM

Posted on 07/17/2020 7:00:57 AM PDT by Red Badger

"What this will do is ensure a safe environment so there is no double entendre," Gates said. "We want to make sure our most junior members understand and feel safe when they are being called their rank."

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The Royal Canadian Navy is planning to replace the term "seaman" for its junior sailors as they are searching for a term that is more gender neutral. Sailors in the Canadian military will be able to weigh in on the topic and so will the public, according to Chek News.

The woman responsible for the personnel policy in Canada’s navy is Cmdr. Deborah-Lynn Gates. She said that the navy is now taking new steps to become more inclusive and diverse.

"We appreciate tradition," Gates said when speaking with The Canadian Press. "And we’re not downplaying tradition absolutely at all. But it’s truly a matter for us to show that we are progressive and that we are listening and we are really, truly representative of Canadian society."

The term "seaman" has been used by Navies across the world for many many years and the Canadian Navy uses terms like "master seaman," "leading seaman," "able seaman" and "ordinary seaman."

Gates also claims that the navy is trying to make sure their most junior members can feel proud of their ranks and feel safe.

"What this will do is ensure a safe environment so there is no double entendre," Gates said. "Definitely at the tactical level, we want to make sure our most junior members understand and feel safe when they are being called their rank, being called their name or being addressed."

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Beginning Friday, the public and members of the navy will have the ability to vote for two alternatives for the term, both of which replace "seaman" with "sailor" in different ways.

One of the ways replaces existing "seaman" ranks with "sailor" and the other replaces terms like "leading" and "able" with "sailor first-class" and "sailor second-class."

Alternative terms can also be suggested.

The online poll will take place until the end of the month and senior commanders will receive the results and then make the decision.

The cabinet will eventually have to approve the suggested change.

Critics have come forward online saying that removing the term will result in a loss of tradition. Some add that political correctness is not needed in the navy. Others who are for the move say it is long overdue. ADs

Gates pointed to the current sailor shortage in the navy noting that the term may potentially turn people away from signing up.

"When they hear you’ll start off as an ordinary seaman, it’s maybe just a little thing, but it did not resonate," Gates said. "So we know it’s not resonating with recruits and for us it’s a matter of making sure we’re being representative and that we are modern and forward-looking."


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: canada; canuck; navy; sailor
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How about 'SAILOR'?.......................
1 posted on 07/17/2020 7:00:57 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Use the Latin “Nauta” (sailor). It is masculine, but looks feminine.


2 posted on 07/17/2020 7:03:11 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Good move. Sailor does sound much better than seaman regardless of any gender sensitivity. Our 10 yr old brains ruined seaman a long time ago.


3 posted on 07/17/2020 7:03:35 AM PDT by sojc (Libertarian. Medical doctor. Not a believer of conspiracy theories.)
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So they’re discarding the tradition of ‘rum, sodomy and the lash’?


4 posted on 07/17/2020 7:04:04 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Father in Heaven, I trust in Your love.)
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Sounds too close to ‘naughty’..................


5 posted on 07/17/2020 7:04:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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No, those are staying, apparently................


6 posted on 07/17/2020 7:05:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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Until Trudeau is gone then things will go back to Normal


7 posted on 07/17/2020 7:05:47 AM PDT by butlerweave
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About time they come to their senses.


8 posted on 07/17/2020 7:06:20 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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Seaperson


9 posted on 07/17/2020 7:10:54 AM PDT by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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The Royal Canadian Navy is planning to replace the term “seaman” for its junior sailors on both ships.


10 posted on 07/17/2020 7:11:22 AM PDT by wny
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11 posted on 07/17/2020 7:12:03 AM PDT by rickmichaels (I shouldn't have to press 1 for English)
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No brainer...but who knew the Canucks had a Navy? For what?


12 posted on 07/17/2020 7:17:46 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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First class and second class? Sounds kinda classist.


13 posted on 07/17/2020 7:21:32 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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How about 'SAILOR'?.......................

Would they have the slightest idea of how to work a sail? Especially those on a submarine.

14 posted on 07/17/2020 7:22:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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Limey?????


15 posted on 07/17/2020 7:25:16 AM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
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Master seaman. Are they struggling with the term “master,” too? If so, that’s a double whammy.


16 posted on 07/17/2020 7:25:44 AM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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Anyone with the slightest amount of a real education would know that the suffix “-man” is non-gender specific and just means “person.”


17 posted on 07/17/2020 7:26:06 AM PDT by Petrosius
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18 posted on 07/17/2020 7:28:21 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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What’s next? Uranus?


19 posted on 07/17/2020 7:29:48 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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....”The term “seaman” has been used by Navies across the world for many many years and the Canadian Navy uses terms like “master seaman,” “leading seaman,” “able seaman” and “ordinary seaman.”.....
Oh, for Pete’s sake.... doesn’t this third-world country have anything more important to worry about than what names to give their sailors...? Next thing ya know, this foolishness will spill over to OUR armed forces...goodbye “Airman” in the U.S. Air Force; goodbye to Seaman, Airman, Constructionman, Fireman, etc. in the US. Navy....”Rifleperson” in the U.S. Marine Corps....??


20 posted on 07/17/2020 7:30:16 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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