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Qualified Immunity is a Test for Conservatives
Townhall.com ^ | July 8, 2020 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 07/08/2020 7:24:01 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Arones

Lol, what “facts?” Did you report the police misconduct you witnessed during your ride-alongs?


61 posted on 07/08/2020 1:50:14 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: NobleFree

Ok.


62 posted on 07/08/2020 1:50:47 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Lol, what “facts?” Did you report the police misconduct you witnessed during your ride-alongs?

Why do you always asks two unrelated questions? You're a logical fallacy generator.

Take a breath and start over.

63 posted on 07/08/2020 1:55:45 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Arones

Why start over? I think he’s achieving his objectives.


64 posted on 07/08/2020 1:58:52 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Arones

Answer them one at a time, if you need to. Did you not report the police misconduct you witnessed in your five ride-alongs? If not, why not?


65 posted on 07/08/2020 2:04:47 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Nah. I'l start at the beginning.

You burped:

You don’t think cops doing their job correctly in high crime areas don’t get frivolous complaints filed against them?

And I'll ask you as I asked the other poster just before you butted in: Why don't you show them to us?

Answer, or go away.

66 posted on 07/08/2020 2:12:58 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Kaslin
Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin faces murder and manslaughter charges for kneeling on George Floyd's neck until he stopped breathing. But even if Chauvin is convicted, Floyd's family may not be able to pursue claims under a federal statute that authorizes lawsuits against government officials who violate people's constitutional rights.

Why go after Chauvin when it's the Minneapolis Police Department that has the deep pockets? They should be good for seven figures while Chauvin probably has next to nothing.

67 posted on 07/08/2020 2:21:21 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Arones
You made the statement that your five police ride-alongs (LOL), “aided in my thoughts on what is wrong with cops and cop organizations.”

Did you report what you saw that “aided in your thoughts” that all misconduct complaints are genuine? If you don’t want to answer that, it’s fine. I wouldn’t believe you anyway. If you don’t care, fine. But, as a hint, “facts” are independently verifiable. Your phony BS is not.

68 posted on 07/08/2020 2:23:00 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: bert
I would prefer a federal law that resisting arrest anywhere everywhere is a felony and can be mitigated by a sap blow to the head rendering the resister incapacitated.

Why not just make it subject to summary shooting by the police officer?

69 posted on 07/08/2020 2:23:04 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Back to a million distractions.

Show me the data on frivolous accusations.


70 posted on 07/08/2020 2:37:32 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Arones

Lol, lying noob.


71 posted on 07/08/2020 2:39:48 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Lol....giggle giggle

You write and read like a 13 year old girl.

Show me the data.

72 posted on 07/08/2020 2:42:10 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Would any government even allow motor vehicles to operate on public roads if it could be sued for damages every time someone was involved in a motor vehicle crash?”

It wouldn’t stop there. Sanctuary city/county/state govs could be held liable. It’s why serious reform will never happen.


73 posted on 07/08/2020 3:10:02 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kaslin

I am all for qualified immunity. What I am not for is prosecutors and judges stretching beyond all recognition the standard of “qualified immunity”. It has gotten so bad that in only the most extreme cases of physical abuse does a cop of government get held accountable in either a criminal or civil case.

If a cop “knew or should have known” that his actions were a violation of the civil rights of an arrestee, qualified immunity is unavailable.

Prosecutors and judges to often fall back on the excuse that there is no other case that has the exact specific facts as the case being reviewed, and therefore the cop and the government is not liable. This is absurd.


74 posted on 07/08/2020 4:07:58 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: DoodleDawg

As a determined molly coddler, you and your ilk are the root of the problem by in essence promoting criminal activity


75 posted on 07/09/2020 5:51:40 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Arones

They’re too busy licking those nice shiny jackboots.


76 posted on 07/09/2020 6:22:52 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: bert
As a determined molly coddler, you and your ilk are the root of the problem by in essence promoting criminal activity

Quite right. Shoot suspects on sight and sooner or later your crime rate drops. Brilliant idea. </sarcasm>

77 posted on 07/09/2020 6:40:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RedStateRocker
Yeah. I guess he's not really such a badass.

More of a strawman builder.

78 posted on 07/09/2020 7:45:53 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Kaslin
The FBI so seldom prosecutes anyone under 18 USC 242, that for all practical purposes, it is non-existent, as is our Bill of Rights. Without remedies, our constitution is rendered useless. Immunity has been growing out of all bounds, and was invented way back when, "the king could do no wrong," so judges expanded this immunity, to something called "absolute immunity."

Our legal class had best learn, that we had a revolutionary war to establish this Constitution and Bill of Rights and that they only govern by the consent of the people, or we will most certainly have to have to take actions that nobody wants. Neither us, nor they.
79 posted on 07/09/2020 11:23:49 PM PDT by krogers58
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