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Ex-officer who knelt on George Floyd's neck charged with murder
NBC via Yahoo ^ | May 29th, 2020 | Doha Madani and David K. Li and Tom Winter

Posted on 05/29/2020 12:20:44 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner

Can they convict on both charges?


101 posted on 05/29/2020 9:36:13 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP

Yes.


102 posted on 05/29/2020 9:36:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: bort

The officers didn’t give a damn when Mr. Floyd expired and the one idiot kept his knee on the dead man until the EMT told him to move. Sorry, these idiot cops started this and I will never forget that.


103 posted on 05/30/2020 8:53:54 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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The officers didn’t give a damn when Mr. Floyd expired and the one idiot kept his knee on the dead man until the EMT told him to move. Sorry, these idiot cops started this and I will never forget that.
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The criminal complaint stated that the body cam video showed Mr. Floyd screaming out “I can’t breathe” while he was standing up. He also was saying that he was claustrophobic. This goof was high as a kite on drugs, and the police were obviously holding him down as they were concerned for his safety and the safety of others. Obviously, the officer used inappropriate and excessive force. But he did not choke him or cut off his airway. The autopsy proves that this man did not die from a lack of oxygen. That’s why everybody is so upset because they think this goof couldn’t breathe. He absolutely was breathing the whole time he was claiming that he couldn’t breathe. These savages should be shot, no questions asked. The medical examiner couldn’t even state with certainty that the officers’ actions caused this guy’s death. And they charge him with murder? Basically, cities are burning everywhere because a bunch of savages refused to wait for the outcome of the autopsy, which shows that the officer did not kill this guy. So everybody should increase their fire insurance after this officer is acquitted.


104 posted on 05/30/2020 9:26:19 PM PDT by bort
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To: bort

I don’t believe the police, I believe the video and so will a jury.


105 posted on 05/31/2020 8:31:24 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Chauvin needs a bench trial and change of venue. That would be a good sentence for him if found guilty.


106 posted on 05/31/2020 8:50:37 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: RetiredArmy

The fact that you assign property to an owner means you are racist. /s


107 posted on 05/31/2020 8:54:52 AM PDT by steve8714
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I don’t believe the police, I believe the video and so will a jury.

The medical examiner is not a police officer. Medical examiners don’t take sides.


108 posted on 05/31/2020 9:46:46 AM PDT by bort
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To: steve8714

Oh well. This we defend.


109 posted on 05/31/2020 9:54:39 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Friends at FR - Are you prepared to meet the LORD??? Do you KNOW Him? Do so today!)
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To: bort

Then you’ll trust the independent forensics examination of Mr. Floyd, right?


110 posted on 05/31/2020 3:50:18 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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Then you’ll trust the independent forensics examination of Mr. Floyd, right?

First, let’s take a stroll down memory lane. My multiple posts all said “let’s wait for all of the facts” and “I have an open mind” and “I want to see 2 pieces of evidence: the autopsy and the police body cam video.” In response, I had several comments along the lines of: “What are we going to learn from an autopsy” and “we don’t need to see more video” because we saw the officer pin Floyd down by his neck.

Now, what did we learn from two pieces of evidence that I was asking about. Well, from the autopsy, we learned that Floyd did NOT die from “I can’t breathe.” He did NOT die from strangulation or asyphyxia, i.e., a lack of oxygen. He died from underlying heart disease and drugs in his system, and POSSIBLY the officers’ actions. Second, we learned that Mr. “I can’t breathe” was resisting being put in a squad car, screaming “I’m claustrophobic” and “I can’t breathe”—in a situation where he could clearly BREATHE. In other words, Mr. Floyd was very likely high on PCP or a similar drug, was “tripping” and the officers pinned him down for his own safety and the safety of others.

Now, with that said, I have pointed out quite clearly that two things can be true: the officer used excessive force (perhaps even ridiculous force) on Mr. Floyd, but this excessive force did NOT cause the death. The DA was holding off on charging Officer Chauvin, at least until his house was under siege by Antifa. This charging document basically says: We do not yet have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin’s actions contributed to the death of Mr. Floyd. Again, I am not saying that the officer will be acquitted. The full autopsy has not been completed. I want more facts before I make a judgment.

As to your question: An “independent” autopsy is not “independent” if an interested party pays for it. That would be like Officer Chauvin’s legal team hiring an “independent” medical examiner. The Hennepin County coroner is not a cop. I have dealt with medical examiners before. As a defense lawyer, the medical examiners will always discuss their findings with me. They don’t play games. They do not take sides.

The whole reason I went out on a limb on this case is because I have experience in similar cases. I knew right off the bat that Floyd could BREATHE. I could also tell via his behavior that he was on drugs of some sort. In short, cities are burning because the media/social media/and emotional people jumped to the conclusion that this guy was killed by the officers when, in fact, that isn’t at all clear.


111 posted on 05/31/2020 4:15:10 PM PDT by bort
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In your numerous posts you say we should wait for the facts when we’re discussing the cops. But with the victim you have not taken the same care. You’d have more credibility if you did.


112 posted on 05/31/2020 6:00:22 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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