Posted on 05/25/2020 4:15:28 PM PDT by NoLibZone
Indeed, and with the most deaths being among those who were quarantined. And which "extreme mitigation measures" will exact a death toll likely higher than the virus. Meaning the issue is not that Covid was/in very infectious and too-often lethal to a certain class, but whether the measures enacted in response were what was best. Thus far they have been without precedent relative to the population fatality rate.
Do you have any data that led you to this estimate or is it just your gut?
What's the highest number you've seen for nationwide infection rate in the literature?
So how do you account for 100K deaths in three months despite extreme measures when we have many fewer flu deaths in an entire year with no extraordinary steps taken. Especially when almost all of the Covid deaths were in your elderly and infirm population.
How so?
Meaning 7% of 331,000,000 have been infected, and 100,000 deaths equals a CFR of 0.49%? Too late for me to go any further to-nite. Time to catch some zzz's.
“This whole episode has been a farce.”
Yes it is.
Then when you throw in the vast numbers who insist that .3% is 3 percent instead of 1/3 of 1% you can see why the hysterical over-reacting of the karen/chads.
No wonder they have worked so hard to dumb down our kids for the last 4-5 decades. Now they can sell them anything.
If I recall correctly, about 80% have mild symptoms, 15% get hospitalized and recover and 5% die (close to the 5.8%). This would give about 2 million cases based on 100k deaths, meaning 30 MILLION HAD NO SYMPTOMS OR VERY MILD SYNONYMS!
So while CV appears to have about a 10x death rate compared to flu, it may be that people with flu are 4x more likely to show symptoms. (Flu 25% show symptoms. CV 2/32 = 6.25% show symptoms. 25/6.25 = 4x)
This all unverified based what might be incorrect data/assumptions, such as the 0.3% CV death rate applying to the US. More analysis should also be done for age and at risk groups, etc.
None of that current data is worth a plugged nickle or a dead turtle. Not to mention all the asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 are left completely out of your “data” set. Let’s also remember that influenza is a non-reportable disease so “apples to apples” goes right out the window there.
Yep, approx. (I used 6% for my spreadsheet)...my “W.A.G.” for COVOD-19 “final CFR” (in a year or so) is 0.2%.
Leaving aside the fact that there isn’t a national shutdown so a letter to Trump is purely political, all they’re arguing for is a controlled reopening which no one objects to.
I notice they have no criticism of the original distancing measures, which were being put into effect by the population well before the government acted.
I’m glad you can be so cavalier about a 600% increase in suicide hotline calls. Which is only just the beginning since we’re only 2 1/2 months into this economic crash.
Not cavalier at all. Not taking 100k deaths in three months lightly either.
There aren't 100k deaths from Covid right now.
Not if you take into account the downward adjustments of covid deaths such as the 31% overcount in Colorado.
You’re whatabouting the Spanish flu? That’s what you’ve got?
There aren't 100k deaths from Covid right now.
How many people have died at home never diagnosed with Covid?
How many people have died at home never diagnosed with Covid?
None. Everyone who has died at home in the past three months would have been tested. The lung damage would also be obvious in autopsy.
I knew this would be beyond your reasoning power.
You seriously thought that only 100k people died of the Spanish Flu? LOL
The CDC estimates that 675k died in the U.S.
The population of the U.S. in 1918 was only 103 million then.
I agree, it was not an overreaction in the beginning. There were too many unknowns. With that said, once the real statistics came out and were understood they should have opened things up sometime ago. Now they are trying to delay opening things up impact the elections.
The first amendment to the constitution has been trampled. They suspended the constitution for medical reasons. Next time it willl be for something like ingrown toenails because we all know that global warming causes ingrown toenails. /sarc.
Re: “So how do you account for 100K deaths in three months?”
Simple - they don’t count flu deaths the same way they count COVID deaths.
Here is the link to the CDC memo that explains how to count COVID deaths...
Here is a brief summary of that memo:
(1) All “presumed” COVID deaths are given the same code as COVID deaths that were confirmed by testing.
(2) Death Certificates are to be filled out in a way that essentially guarantees that 100% of the people who have COVID and die are classified as a COVID fatality, regardless of any other diseases that might be present.
Examples:
(1) Influenza precedes at least 50% of pneumonia deaths each year. However, less than 10% of pneumonia deaths are classified as flu deaths.
(2) If a pneumonia victim who has COVID dies, 100% of those deaths are classified as COVID fatalities.
Bottom Line...
Based just on pneumonia deaths alone, influenza fatalities would be over 100,000 EVERY YEAR - if they were counted the same way as COVID fatalities.
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