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Mutant strain of coronavirus that makes it more infectious has 'dominated' the US and Europe - and vaccines in development may NOT work against it, study suggests
dm ^ | 5/5/2020 | rahhal

Posted on 05/05/2020 3:39:15 PM PDT by RummyChick

Scientists have discovered a coronavirus mutation that is of 'urgent concern' because it makes the virus more contagious and has already become dominant in the places it's reached - including part of the US.

Researchers at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico say that the mutant strain started spreading in early February in Europe.

It has since made its way to the US, where it became the most common - and aggressive - strain on the East Coast by March, and the scientists say its now the world-dominating strain.

In their report, which hasn't been peer-reviewed but was posted to BioRxiv, the researchers warn that the vaccines currently in development across the US may not be effective against this mutant strain and urge that their discovery needs to be considered in further work on coronavirus treatments and shots.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 05/05/2020 3:39:15 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

OH NOES!

We are all gonna die....again! lol


2 posted on 05/05/2020 3:40:13 PM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: RummyChick

OH, MY GOODNESS!!!


3 posted on 05/05/2020 3:41:31 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Autonomous User

Soylent Green is people!!!!!


4 posted on 05/05/2020 3:42:08 PM PDT by Salamander (Flying Colours....)
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To: RummyChick

there is a strain in arizona that had mutated to be less dangerous. the virus defense mechanism against attack had lessened


5 posted on 05/05/2020 3:43:15 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

“Release the REAL virus.”


6 posted on 05/05/2020 3:43:33 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: RummyChick

Maybe God really needs a reboot here and start over.


7 posted on 05/05/2020 3:43:43 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: RummyChick
Maybe it is the vaccine.
8 posted on 05/05/2020 3:44:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Marcus Aurelius6:16p, 5/4/20AG
I have an elderly patient admitted for COVID-19. She has survived and is doing well. She is no longer symptomatic. She has had 8 positive COVID swabs!!!! And she has been in the hospital for 6 weeks. Her nursing home requires 2 consecutive negative swabs. So she languishes in the hospital, at risk for nosocomial infections, deconditioning, malnutrition, delirium, psychiatric illness, to name a few.

Have others experienced this? Is this inactive viral particles? And what to do for these people? Frustrating. I understand the nursing home’s policies but I really don’t think she’s infectious now.


txtomster3:18p
I work at a hospital in Houston . We have an employee that was positive in March . She only had a fever , no other symptoms . After 14 days she was tested and still showed positive , because she cannot come back to work until 2 negative tests. She continues to test positive and has not been able to return to work yet .


Ranger2228:59p, 5/4/20AG
The South Koreans have data that suggest remnants of the viral genome can last up to months. Sorry to hear about your case but I’m sure there will be many more like it.

Do you have any ideas what are the cycle numbers being returned for the qPCR test? You could make an argument if they are decreasing over time or are in the ~30s, right above the threshold for a “positive” result. If they had any data logged prior that cycles leading to positive were in 20s and now weeks later are in 30s, you could argue she has cleared (if they are willing to listen other than positive/negative result).


9 posted on 05/05/2020 3:45:33 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick
BOO!
10 posted on 05/05/2020 3:46:15 PM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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BiochemAg97In reply to Player To Be Named Later • 3:55p, 5/4/20AG
Player To Be Named Later said:
Is your office starting to do anti-body testing? If so, which test are y’all running with?

Thanks for all you do!I’m not that kind of Doctor. PhD not MD.

The company I work for is involved in almost every aspect of the response to this disease, from the early structural work and genetic sequencing, to rtPCR tests, to production of PPE and some of the drugs, to vaccine development, and likely vaccine production when we get there.

We don’t currently produce an antibody test. That has repeatedly been answered as we will only put our brand behind a quality antibody test, but we will help scale manufacturing if/when we find the right partner.

As for which antibody test I would recommend... stick with the tests that have EUA from the FDA.
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/emergency-situations-medical-devices/emergency-use-authorizations#covid19ivd

Some of those only test for IgG which is weeks after exposure but more likely to indicate recovered or near recovered patient. IgM/IgG tests has the ability to detect earlier in the process (IgM shows up before IgG) and could identify someone in the middle of an infection. Not as earlier as a nucleotide test, but if someone is IgM positive and IgG negative, they probably need a PCR test and self quarantine.


11 posted on 05/05/2020 3:48:07 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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A_new_study_shows
12 posted on 05/05/2020 3:50:06 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: RummyChick

If the virus has an HIV type”spike” to it I get concerned that it might also have HIV type cronicity and stay latent and contagious the same way HIV, herpes or hepatitis viruses do.

Hence if such is the case, some folks may never show negative tests even though they are “stable”, they may continue to be latent sources of contagion.


13 posted on 05/05/2020 3:52:39 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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ReveilleIn reply to Player To Be Named Later • 6:49p, 5/4/20AG
Player To Be Named Later said:
Running the blood draws or the finger stick test?
We are doing the blood tests. Our IgG test actually has a specificity of 99.5% by Abbott labs

The Roche test is IgG and IgM has a specificity of 99.8% and sensitivity of 100% . However, it is being delayed due to shortage of reagents in the lab.


14 posted on 05/05/2020 3:52:41 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

The ‘new’ strain of the virus will appear around mid-September, just in time to force mail-in voting in blue states...

You think I’m joking...


15 posted on 05/05/2020 3:54:25 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: RummyChick

OH NOES WERE ALL GONNA DIE WE HAVE TO STAY HOME FOREVER!!!/sarc


16 posted on 05/05/2020 3:54:31 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: IncPen

Oh I agree..and if God Forbid Biden wins, the next day after the election, guess what..VIRUS IS GONE..POOF that easy, no more corona


17 posted on 05/05/2020 3:55:13 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BenLurkin

A profound observation.


18 posted on 05/05/2020 3:55:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mdmathis6

if you are in the science field I posted a thread today with a crazy amount of scientific information in it with a lot of bio data


19 posted on 05/05/2020 3:55:20 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

My ass, media making up more shit.


20 posted on 05/05/2020 3:56:00 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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