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Actually, 20,792 have died in New York State - see link below https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Using a 13% infection rate and 2,700,000 cases, the Infection fatality rate is .8%, 8 times higher than seasonal flu. And the .1% seasonal flu mortality rate cited is based on cases with symptoms, it does not consider infections which could be detected by blood test but produce no symptoms. 75% of regular flu is asymptomatic so the infection fatality rate for normal flu is actually .025% Therefore Covid19 is 32 times as deadly as seasonal flu. Any questions? https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/three-quarters-of-people-with-flu-have-no-symptoms/ https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/how-many-people-already-have-covid-19/

1 posted on 04/23/2020 9:53:52 AM PDT by brookwood
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Links
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-york-virus-deaths-top-15k-cuomo-expected-to-detail-plan-to-fight-nursing-home-outbreaks/2386556/
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/three-quarters-of-people-with-flu-have-no-symptoms/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/how-many-people-already-have-covid-19/


2 posted on 04/23/2020 9:54:57 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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Neutrinos.
Infectinos.

I think you have discovered the root cause of the infection! Infectinos.

All this time I thought it was virions. You may be in line for a Nobel Prize.


3 posted on 04/23/2020 9:56:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Mike Pence was just talking about this on Rush Limbaugh’s show.

Says they are finding many, many people with antibodies who did not know they were sick. Can you say “herd immunity”?

Also said that this was anticipated. I don’t buy it. I think he’s being a gentleman and covering Fauci’s arse.


4 posted on 04/23/2020 9:56:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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It’s still going to take a week or two before the normies figure this out. Doesn’t help that the antibody results aren’t repeated over and over at the daily briefings.


5 posted on 04/23/2020 9:57:20 AM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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“much lower, though still much higher”

OK. “Lots worse, but less worse.”

“Lots hotter, but much cooler.”


6 posted on 04/23/2020 9:57:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Worldometers is communist funded Soros propaganda.


9 posted on 04/23/2020 10:02:09 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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so the denominator is gigantically higher and the numerator is about the same — this, therefore, is in the flu-like range and not the Black Plague.

therefore, the FEAR bros are incorrect — again.

And it’s clearly time to open up the imprisoned economy and its jailed workers.


11 posted on 04/23/2020 10:03:33 AM PDT by Calif Conservative (Ronald Reagan fan forever)
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Not clear from the article how “seasonal flu” was defined and how far back that data went. The trick is to isolate the effect of the virus. To do this, it seems that there should be some sort of age adjustment if the data went back far enough — aren’t the aging baby boomers who are dying from the virus now 10 years older, and in worse shape, than they were when the SARS epidemic broke under Obama?


20 posted on 04/23/2020 10:09:14 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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LA county if health estimated 400,000 cases with 600 dead, thats just 0.15 percent ! Also ,USA has is least 1/20 th the deaths that we were first warned about when they were also saying death rate was 3 percent and there would be 2 million deaths in USA , now not so... Data is all over the map, unreliable ,, the only conclusions we can draw, medical experts cant do math, probably why they went into the soft sciences to begin with .

http://www.publichealth.lacounty.gov/phcommon/public/media/mediapubhpdetail.cfm?prid=2328


25 posted on 04/23/2020 10:19:19 AM PDT by seastay
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“Infectino”?

Latino Typhoid Mary?


26 posted on 04/23/2020 10:21:44 AM PDT by DannyTN
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And the .1% seasonal flu mortality rate cited is based on cases with symptoms, it does not consider infections which could be detected by blood test but produce no symptoms.

I don't think that's correct.

The CDC cited 0.1% mortality rate for flu includes an estimate for unreported cases. Without the estimate I believe the mortality rate is around 0.2%.

28 posted on 04/23/2020 10:23:55 AM PDT by FreeReign
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More of you nonsensical crap? Did you learn nothing from your idiotic posts yesterday?


30 posted on 04/23/2020 10:29:14 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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Is 5 times worse than a typical flu season worth throwing 20% of Americans out of work - with more to come? How’s your job doing?

When government workers start losing their jobs left and right due to a severe decline in tax revenue....


34 posted on 04/23/2020 10:50:28 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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Now we know why the are calling all death CCP virus deaths.


38 posted on 04/23/2020 11:17:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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In New Jersey as of yesterday the death rate based on confirmed cases is over 5%. In my county which is suburban/rural the percentage is just over 6%. In my township the percentage is over 12% and it is not urban at all. Assuming that 50% of deaths were in nursing homes that still leaves numbers higher than many people realize.

Just an FYI, for those looking to return to business as usual. I can respect that position and understand that not every state is identical. Just saying be careful..... this disease spreads fast and it kills old and young people. It can take down and kill a relatively healthy middle aged person in a few days, I’ve seen that happen more than once locally. For many that it does not kill, it leaves them all screwed up, possibly for the rest of their lives. I am not saying cower in fear, just use common sense and don’t be in a rush to take risks. Also be aware that as soon as you open up your state there are a bunch of people from the hot zone that are heading your way to escape this situation. Some of them are going to be sick.

In the first few weeks the more rural areas in NJ saw little infection but even with quarantine the numbers are creeping up now. I didn’t take this seriously at first and I think some of it has been way overblown but living in the middle of it now, I do see that this is no joke and it definately is not the flu.


39 posted on 04/23/2020 11:30:49 AM PDT by XRdsRev (ORANGE MAN GOOD.)
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Hmmm...

You don’t suppose Comcast could lose their investment, or be threaten with the lose of their investment, say, if NBC News said something truthful but still critical of the Chinese Communist Party, do you?

Because I also wonder why I never hear anything but positive news about the Chicoms on NBC.

I just assumed the Journalist were fellow travelers.


40 posted on 04/23/2020 11:36:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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That figure is 28 to 55 times bigger than the 7,994 confirmed COVID-19 cases in the county
https://abc7.com/health/study-41%25-of-la-county-residents-have-coronavirus-antibody/6117862/


41 posted on 04/23/2020 11:37:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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Thanks for posting but if you read the replies you will realize that you are not exactly mainstream here at Good Old FR.

I’m not either. I expect higher death rates than are predicted as we move away from the lockdown. But, OTOH, we have to do it. The Freepers are right about that and I agree with them. But they are looking the other way when it comes to projected deaths. Putting too much faith in the very iffy projections from the antibody testing.

I think we dodged a bullet with the shutdown. Apparently most Freepers think the magic flattening would have happened anyway and the the shutdown was a big mistake. I don’t agree with that.

But I do agree that the Governors, at least the Dem Governors are overdoing it. They love power and they’ve never had power like this before. Ambrosia is addictive.


42 posted on 04/23/2020 11:56:54 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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45 posted on 04/23/2020 12:12:59 PM PDT by Bommer (I am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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New York State Antibody Study Finds Infectino Mortality Rate At Least 5 Times Greater Than Seasonal Flu.

Even if 1 in 5 New York City Residents Already Infected With CCP Virus, Antibody Testing Shows ?

49 posted on 04/23/2020 5:48:58 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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