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Came across this article and thought I should share.

Anyone one in California heard of it?

1 posted on 04/09/2020 7:51:28 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Sounds like old news. Something like this has been the case here in California for years.


2 posted on 04/09/2020 7:53:56 PM PDT by Pelham (Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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To: Morgana
Planned Parenthood . . . the name doesn't make any sense given what the organization is all about. What an evil outfit. . . nothing but a 21st Century

Molech/Moloch

4 posted on 04/09/2020 8:16:08 PM PDT by Maudeen (Our ONLY Hope . . . JESUS!)
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To: Morgana
One especially sinister aspect of this, on top of the baby murdering, is the implicit assumption that citizens are property of the government.

This also fits in with the other "progressive" projects of killing old people and the disabled.

It's not just the one organization Planned Parenthood. There is in effect a much larger Anti-Human League promoting the aims of the religion of Death Worship.

5 posted on 04/10/2020 6:58:07 AM PDT by Salman
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A fact-sheet from bill author Senator Hannah-Beth Jackson, (D) Santa Barbara, states the legislation is necessary to protect young adults, who remain on their parent’s health insurance until age 26, from being shamed or hurt by the policyholder who disagrees with their healthcare choices. Yet, this bill not only hides the medical services used by young adults from their parents, but according to the text of SB 1004, it also hides services for “a minor who can consent to a health care service without the consent of a parent or legal guardian… .”

First, does this lady not realize that it is the parents' option to let the kid remain on their insurance until 26? The law only requires insurers to offer the option, but the parents aren't required to leave kiddo on there. In fact, most require the child to be removed if they acquire their own insurance from somewhere.

Secondly, how does this work with payment stuff? Do all these secret payments not count for deductibles/catastrophic caps/limit on benefits? Won't some people notice when the numbers don't line up with the one doc visit mom 'n' dad had?

Who pays the excess bills? Sure, kiddo might afford a $20 copay on their allowance from mowing grass and mopping the kitchen, but when the patient portion is several hundred/thousand dollars, who gets the bill if the parent's aren't allowed to find out? What happens when the entire policy gets locked down due to nonpayment of these secret services? Mom 'n' Dad can't be held responsible, they were not informed, and gave no permission for the expenditures to be made.

What about any kind of prescriptions? Not just payment, but who's gonna pick them up / dispense them? Does the kiddo have to sneak by Walgreens when Mom sends him to the grocery store on his bike for a loaf of bread? How irresponsible is it for a pharmacy to be dispensing whatever drugs, to someone who possibly can't comprehend their blurb about drug interactions or dosages or complications?

Speaking of complications, what happens when there's a major issue when they give their kid something over-the-counter that interacts horribly with one of these secret pills? And they can't tell the ER what's in unconscious kiddo's system because they don't know?

Who's responsible when Mom 'n' Dad find a pile of unlabeled pills in kiddo's sock drawer and toss them down the toilet? Does kiddo get a free refill? Who's responsible if a younger sibling gets into them? Who's responsible if they share pills with a friend?

What happens if the kiddo wants something that isn't covered by the plan? Does this bill give them authority to pick a more expensive healthcare option so they can get their chopoffadiktomy covered? Are they just then covered under CA-Care? Do they have to give up on the procedure?


California law permits minors of various ages to consent to the following medical procedures and treatment: abortion; drug­ and alcohol ­related problems; HIV/AIDS; certain infectious, contagious, or communicable diseases, including sexually transmitted diseases; mental health drugs and counseling; pregnancy and birth control; and sexual assault. Under SB 1004, insurance companies would be criminally charged if they let parents know their health insurance policy was paying for these procedures for their minor children.

And if the insurance company sends a bill or other correspondence (Explanation of Benefits?) addressed to the child, what happens with all of that? There's NO legal issue with parents opening/reading the mail of their minor kid. It's a pretty gray area for a live-at-home non-minor, or a kid at college who still gets mail at home, even if he expressly doesn't give them permission to open it. Would any of that open the insurance company to charges of "Letting the Parents Know"?

If there is no bill/notification, what's to stop the doctor's office from billing insurance for all sorts of procedures (whether actually completed or not), when they can just hide them from the parents? Easy money, and who's gonna file a complaint? Turn that $50 cough visit into a $500 "sex-change" consultation, and bam, bonus profit! Even if the insurance company tries to investigate fraudulent billing, the only one with any evidence is the kid, and what parent is gonna let their kid talk to the insurance company? The insurance company probably couldn't even ask to talk to the kid - that likely falls under "Letting the Parent Know"! The only one with a story to tell is the doc - who obviously isn't gonna admit to filling any false billing codes. Nope, we definitely talked to the kid about all sorts of stuff! Parents can't know. Case closed. Free $$$!
6 posted on 04/10/2020 11:41:38 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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