Posted on 03/30/2020 8:18:54 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
It's dirt cheap.
Agreed. Bureaucrats against Trump.
Not conspiracy...fear and ignorance.
There are so many brilliant, inventive, thoughtful, clever and experienced people in this country and out in the world. They don’t become functionaries in a bureaucracy, so they are often ignored until the functionaries are hit in the head with a brick.
cuban leaf wrote:
“If you look at the curved graphs (death) there you will notice the same trend as in the US. There is a slight curve downward. This thing may be peaking worldwide.”
Prayers UP!!
Stay the course!
Yes, that is what I am saying and it’s according to the captions (which are in French) on those statistics. They have total number of people treated with the combination, irrespective of the amount of time they were on it, and then the number of people who died who were taking the combination but only if they were taking it for more than 3 days. It’s seriously misleading considering a lot of people are looking at their results.
So they’re showing only 1 person who died taking the combination but that’s because that 1 person was only counted because they took it 4 or more days. They’re not counting the people who died who took it less than 4 days.
In fact, it could be that the people taking this combination died at a higher rate than those at the hospital not taking it since there were 16 total deaths at the hospital but those 16 deaths are not broken down except for saying only 1 person taking the combination for 4 or more day died. Since they’re not breaking it down, it’s entirely possible that there were 16 deaths of people taking the combination and 0 deaths from those not taking it.
Yes, common sense could say that but if you want to be taken seriously, you have to report it since coronavirus effects people differently. If you exclude everyone who dies who was treated with your therapy to make yourself look better it’s at best misleading statistics. And it’s clearly not a couple hours away from death because they’re putting the cutoff at 3 days or less. Lots of people go in with coronavirus okay and died a couple days later.
Also important to note is that France doesn’t distribute patients evenly so it’s also not clear that the people sent to this hospital are the worst patients.
I actually think France is doing a good job with coronavirus and hopefully this particular treatment works out, but they have to be transparent if they want to be taken seriously. The statistics on that website are designed to be misleading.
In NYC, about 22% of those infected are hospitalized:
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-hospitalizations.pdf
NYC is an exception, though, based on:
1. Population density average (28,210 per square mile); however, Manhattan’s density is 70,826 per square mile.
2. The ill-advised encouragement by the head of their health department to Chinatown to go ahead and celebrate the Chinese New Year.
3. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people living close together in one building.
4. The lack of open air.
Compare that to Los Angeles:
1. Population density of 7,815 per square mile.
2. Downtown and suburban areas have much more open air.
3. Many people live in suburban areas where the population is much-less dense.
Having people walking closely together in an enclosed area such as NYC with huge “walls” (aka buildings), sharing cabs, and living in very close proximity is a disaster waiting to happen.
For comparison:
NYC infections and deaths: 33,768 / 678
LA infections and deaths: 1818 / 32
Source: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6?ocid=eventhub
But face it: most of us would not mind if we were hospitalized as long as we did not die and came through unscathed. So the critical percentage is (assuming everyone who died was in the hospital - fairly reasonable assumption), “Using the total number of infections for the calculation, what is the percentage of people who die from Covid-19?”
About 1.4%. Of course many more people are hospitalized, but they apparently are being released when their symptoms improve.
Looks like the John Hopkins source is behind...
LA now has 6,356 infections and 132 deaths. Still far behind NYC - let’s hope they both get things under control.
Arg! CALIFORNIA (not just LA) now has 6,356 infections and 132 deaths.
President Trump should give him some sort of award.
418 deaths in France today 30 March, the highest yet. But way under the exponential drug, so it’s working. Thing is, we don’t know what percentage of patients in France are receiving the full treatment - which includes azithromycin and a source of zinc.
I have heard, from some hospitals in these united states, that some hospitals are already using the full French treatment. So, in less than a week, we should have American data to add to the success stories.
Way under the exponential curve. That would be around 750.
Also, the one death was an 86-year-old man with PEC hypertension, and was simply too far gone once he started on the protocol
You deapanned that just ALL too well.
Fooled a few.
Is your satire published anywhere but here?
Thanks. I thought it would be obvious. A perfectly composed, liturgical recitation of anti-Trump talking points should, I thought, be apparent as a parody decrying the opposition. I think it shows that our opposition recites and repeats such statements thoughtlessly, so that a parody is indistinguishable from reality. Best regards.
1) Reduce the viral load
2) Reducing the viral load, reduces shedding, reduces transmission
3) Reducing the viral load may shorten the ICU/CCU stay and return the patient to the regular (infectious disease) ward and open up critical care beds
The measure of improvement over time is specifically notable in the first trial report, in that, D4 is the noteworthy first drop-off point in viral load for PQL-only and PQL+Azith, and D6 is the noteworthy hard drop-off point in viral load for PQL+Azith.
Raoult was also adament that IF reducing the viral load also reduces lethality, so be it. But it was not the trial's goal.
Yet to report the 'lack' of deaths is more about the safety of the protocol -- extensively discussed in the second trial report -- than an attempt to 'fool' people like you into thinking Raoult is touting this as a 'cure'. He's not, and he says so.
The word "zinc" does not appear even once in Prof. Raoult's protocols. Let's be clear about that. This is Raoult's "full treatment":
"For all infected patients, many of whom are not very symptomatic, have lung lesions on CT scan, we propose, at the earliest stage of the disease, as soon as the diagnosis is made:
as part of the precautions for use of this combination (including an electrocardiogram on Day0 and Day2). In cases of severe pneumonia, a broad-spectrum antibiotic is also used."
- Hydroxychloroquine (200 mg x 3 per day for 10 days)
- +
- Azithromycin (500 mg on the 1st day then 250 mg per day for 5 more days)
22% of infected are NOT hospitalized. It is 22% of people who test positive for the virus are hospitalized.
Yes - my error. I stand corrected. Thanks.
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