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Renew the Patriot Act or Risk Another 9/11
American Thinker.com ^ | March 9, 2020 | Tim Sumner

Posted on 03/09/2020 6:40:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

Before the Patriot Act, the FBI would have been stymied in conducting a counterterrorism investigation involving a now infamous American agent of a foreign power.

Anwar al-Awlaki was born in the United States. Yet, apparently, Senators Rand Paul and Mike Lee believe the only thing worth remembering about him is that President Obama “illegally” had him killed in Yemen using a Hellfire missile. (No matter that al-Awlaki: had sent “panty bomber” Abdulmuttalab to blow up a passenger plane over Detroit; attempted to blow up a DHL cargo airplane in flight; had become the well-publicized spiritual leader of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula [AQAP]; and was heavily guarded in Yemen’s remote tribal areas -- sending Americans into those wilds to arrest him would have been difficult and dangerous.)

Most of us vividly recall that twice before 9/11 al-Awlaki met with future hijackers.

I agree with former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy that the collection of metadata should be abolished. Further, I agree that judges are unqualified to conduct national security. Republicans and Democrats in Congress have repeatedly abdicated their oversight responsibilities of our intelligence community. Now, some Republicans are seeking to give the FISA court even more authority. Far too many Democrats -- who seek to vest America’s foreign enemies with our constitutional rights -- are cheering them on.

Yet Senators Paul and Lee seem to assume America could also safely let the business records and roving wiretap provisions of the Patriot Act expire after March 15, 2020.

Americans would be less safe, and what might have happened had the FBI investigated Anwar al-Awlaki before 9/11 helps to demonstrate why.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: counterterrorism; domesticterrorism; trumpgwot
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1 posted on 03/09/2020 6:40:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Tear it apart and start over. Fire all those perverts who put their hands on us. Remember that the 911 attackers were allowed to bring box cutters on the plane.


2 posted on 03/09/2020 6:46:49 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Kaslin

another DS threat to Americans


3 posted on 03/09/2020 6:48:03 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: Kaslin

“Before the Patriot Act, the FBI would have been stymied in conducting a counterterrorism investigation involving a now infamous American agent of a foreign power.”

Bullcrap.

L


4 posted on 03/09/2020 6:48:54 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, I agree with the author that we need to renew the star Chamber Act. But if we are going to do so, it needs changes.

Lies to obtain a warrant related to a US citizen should be a felony punishable with a mandatory 25-year sentence, up to life imprisonment, as well as loss of all federal benefits including pensions.

Negligence either in obtaining a warrant or by the judge ruling on a warrant should be a felony punishable by a five-year sentence and loss of federal benefits, pensions included.

If FISA is renewed without changes, kiss whatever is left of the Republic goodbye.


5 posted on 03/09/2020 6:52:59 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Kaslin
"Renew the Patriot Act or Risk Another 9/11"

That sounds a lot like:"Renew the fig leaf that lets us surveil American citizens under the color of law or we'll have more people killed".

Or: "Nice business you have there. Be a shame if it burned down because you had no 'protection'".

6 posted on 03/09/2020 6:54:41 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kaslin

I say risk another 9/11.


7 posted on 03/09/2020 6:55:00 AM PDT by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

To prevent future abuse, Obama must be stood against the wall and shot

Oama is the criminal responsible


8 posted on 03/09/2020 6:56:15 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Kaslin

Unless these criminals in our government are prosecuted for violating the provisions of the Patriot act the Act should killed.

Why give these low lifes the ability to spy on citizens and destroy their lives by giving them government facilities,equipment and information to do so?

Kill the Patriot Act.


9 posted on 03/09/2020 6:58:46 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Kaslin
Hillary, Obama, and Comey (et. al.) are responsible for what Trump does too the Patriot Act. Their behavior has been vicious.

10 posted on 03/09/2020 7:00:08 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Kaslin
No thanks. Deep state already has too much power. Even with the Patriot Act, all they ever did was go after pathetic skinheads, but completely ignored, or actively gave a pass to, jihadis entering the country.

Let it die an ignoble death.

11 posted on 03/09/2020 7:04:26 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve read the legislation and found most of it quite reasonable, while not understanding the hype.

How many have actually read the law?


12 posted on 03/09/2020 7:05:56 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("Now, go and do your duty before darkness covers the earth." Michael Uhlmann (1939 - 2019))
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Not all of the Patriot Act was bad.


13 posted on 03/09/2020 7:06:40 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Kaslin

The Patriot Act brought the Globalist CIA into the domestic spying arena and culminated in a failed coup against a duly elected President of the United States.

First things first.

Prosecute and bring to trial all coup plotters, foreign and domestic.

Abolish the CIA as they have gone rogue and are made obsolete by superior NSA information gathering (why Snowden was dispatched to steal NSA tools).

The war has been and continues to be between the NSA and the CIA:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-q-group-the-directorate-hunting-down-edward-snowden


14 posted on 03/09/2020 7:07:48 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Kaslin

The Federal Government has demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with FISA powers. This is why we cannot have nice things.

The FISA court must either be reformed to prevent future abuse, or eliminated. The nation can not tolerate an out-of-control spy operation that is free to mess about it domestic politics. That is Banana Republic stuff, and it has to go.

Anybody who says we have to tolerate Banana Republic abuse of power is order to prevent the next 9/11 gets two raised middle fingers from me. I would prefer another 9/11, and I do not say that lightly.


15 posted on 03/09/2020 7:09:32 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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To: Kaslin
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

The biggest danger to the American people is the government.

16 posted on 03/09/2020 7:10:37 AM PDT by SanchoP (DC is the deep state.)
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To: Kaslin

Dear Tim:
FOAD and take FISA with you.


17 posted on 03/09/2020 7:10:51 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: bert

He is a primary actor. But George W. Bush and the members of Congress who passed an act with so many foreseeable totalitarian consequences put the cigarette lighter in the toddler’s hand.

At this point I wouldn’t agree with shooting anyone. But it’s also clear that the Praetorian Guard in the alphabet agencies in DC are completely escaping responsibility for their anti-Constitutional actions.


18 posted on 03/09/2020 7:13:04 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Kaslin

When you exchange freedom for security you have neither.


19 posted on 03/09/2020 7:13:15 AM PDT by buckalfa (Post no bills.)
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Anwar al-Awlaki was born in the United States.
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His children were born in Yemen and yet there are people who believe that they are eligible to be President.
If Ted Cruz is, they are.


20 posted on 03/09/2020 7:14:32 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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