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Study released today: Coronavirus 4.8% Mortality Rate
Medrxiv.org ^ | Medrxiv.org

Posted on 02/24/2020 5:18:52 PM PST by BusterDog

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To: jdsteel

Futures are already up 200+ and gold is down almost $20.

The crisis is over. Yahoo.


61 posted on 02/24/2020 6:25:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: BobL

“And needless to say, if the bug got a 3 month head start in Asia, then there will probably be more Asians infected, as the rest of the world tries to catch up. Additionally, the rest of the world will have some idea of what’s coming and will at least have the opportunity to take steps to minimize/mitigate its effects.”

I sure hope that lead time works out for the rest of us (those not in Asia, whether of Asian descent or otherwise). I suspect containment efforts will only delay the spread, but maybe that will save some lives. Asia is screwed, clearly. I guess we get to see what the difference is between first world medicine and third world medicine.


62 posted on 02/24/2020 6:26:06 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: Reno89519

The vast majority of the deaths are in China in places where there is a lot of poverty and poor sanitary conditions.

This is also an odd virus where some people are becoming gravely ill and dying and the same virus infects someone else and causes no symptoms at all. So some people are infected and don’t even know it. In that case, the rate of infection is likely higher than reported, which would bring down the mortality percentage.


63 posted on 02/24/2020 6:27:05 PM PST by david1292
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To: BusterDog

6.8% for flu

The percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza is 6.8%, below the epidemic threshold of 7.3%. Pediatric Deaths 14 influenza-associated pediatric deaths occurring during the 2019-2020 season were reported this week. The total for the season is 92. All data are preliminary and may change as more reports are received. A description of the CDC influenza surveillance system, including methodology and detailed descriptions of each data component is available on the surveillance methods page.
Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Re…
www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm


64 posted on 02/24/2020 6:36:09 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’d also guess that the horrible air quality in China also might have something to do with it.


65 posted on 02/24/2020 6:38:22 PM PST by struggle
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To: Secret Agent Man

I bet they havent taken into account the air quality in those countries either.

China? Hell, you cant even see in some of their cities on account of the pollution.


66 posted on 02/24/2020 6:40:20 PM PST by crz
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To: null and void
From a poster, B-Bond, on Zero Hedge:

Now In China's Rivers: Decomposing Humans

Officials in Lanzhou say bodies floating in river not affecting

Fishing for bodies on China's Yellow River

Chinese media coverage of Shanghai's floating dead

67 posted on 02/24/2020 6:42:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Futures are already up 200+ and gold is down almost $20.
The crisis is over. Yahoo.

Good to know, thanks. I lost money (on paper) today, and was about to juggle my portfolio. Wife told me to hold, and not panic. This isn't 2008, but even after that crash, financials recovered (and then some).

68 posted on 02/24/2020 6:45:43 PM PST by roadcat
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To: BusterDog
These numbers are from their site and only state some simple stats, and then some simple math on my part. Seems like tip of the iceberg to me... 👍
69 posted on 02/24/2020 7:00:39 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: BusterDog

I think those are numbers for those who show up sick, seeking care.

Still, if true it will be talked and written about hundreds of years from now.

“the incidence of abnormal chest CT was 95.6%”

95% of those who get sick get pneumonia. 5% of those who get sick, die. 20%+ in ICU.


70 posted on 02/24/2020 7:06:25 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“They are more prone to have serious cases and die from this than those with european genetics.”

Internet bullsh!t story.


71 posted on 02/24/2020 7:07:39 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mr. Blond

These numbers are horrifying given the transmission rate of the virus. As it stands now, you are more likely to get it at some point than not. But hey... it’s only 4.8% after you get it, right? Good news to invest on!


72 posted on 02/24/2020 7:09:36 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Secret Agent Man

Ooooooor... it’s mostly Asian deaths because that’s where it broke out first.


73 posted on 02/24/2020 7:10:22 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: calenel

THIS is a fantastic question and, to me, is evidence that China is massively under-reporting the numbers here.


74 posted on 02/24/2020 7:11:09 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: BusterDog
It says "Methods: PubMed,Cochrane Library,Embase and other databases were searched. Some studies on the clinical characteristics of 2019-nCoV infection were collected for Meta-analysis"

If all they did was republish the results of other studies then we should see other studies with similar numbers. I have not seen such studies, but I have not looked around a lot.

75 posted on 02/24/2020 7:16:08 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: calenel
Where do they get the 50k resolved cases for the study?

They didn't get any cases. It's a meta-study.

76 posted on 02/24/2020 7:17:01 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: Socon-Econ
What do we really know about the true denominator— the number of cases?

We know almost nothing about the denominator. I simply take the Chinese numbers for granted at this point, but the number of cases could be a lot higher.

77 posted on 02/24/2020 7:20:47 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: RomanSoldier19
6.8% for flu The percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza is 6.8%

To be clear, that's not the mortality rate for flu. In any case the excess mortality from flu and all other winter season illness is about 10% In bad flu years it is more like 15%

78 posted on 02/24/2020 7:23:41 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: cba123
The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease just told Lou Dobbs the mortality rate is less than the 2-3% reported in Red China. (Due to the ChiComs not counting people with minimal symptoms)
79 posted on 02/24/2020 7:28:41 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: null and void; surroundedbyblue; Ken H; proust; Gideon7

see post 79


80 posted on 02/24/2020 7:31:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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