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Accident: Pegasus B738 at Istanbul on Feb 5th 2020, overran runway, impacted wall, broke up
The Aviation Herald ^ | created Wednesday, Feb 5th 2020 16:07Z, last updated Wednesday, Feb 5th 2020 20:46Z | By Simon Hradecky

Posted on 02/05/2020 3:48:31 PM PST by the_daug

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To: Da Coyote

Except for all the manufacturing defects which cause it to break into it pieces, blow out the cabin , etc.

Well-built can only be stated of its landing gear.


21 posted on 02/05/2020 4:42:00 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: the_daug
I read once that Turkish Airlines had a terrible safety record but maybe it had gotten better in recent years. They had a commercial during the Super Bowl.

In 1974 a Turkish DC-10 crashed near Paris, killing 346.
In 1976 a Turkish Boeing 727 crashed in southern Turkey, killing 154.
In 2003 a Turkish Airlines plane crashed during approach to the airport in Diyarbakir, Turkey, killing 75.

22 posted on 02/05/2020 4:48:48 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: nesnah

“Muslims don’t play football.”

Yeah...but they’ve been known to spike a plane before. ;-)


23 posted on 02/05/2020 5:00:33 PM PST by moovova
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To: the_daug

Turk Hava Yolari..... THY.... we used to joke that it stood for They Hate You....


24 posted on 02/05/2020 5:02:17 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

My theory is that it is because either no private aviation or it is restricted to the point that they never learn how to really fly.

As for this accident, go to https://avherald.com/h?article=4d2e6a8d&opt=0

and read it. It gives us a lot of info.

And relative to that info, my experience was (long ago retired from flying) that good landings are made or made very difficult if not impossible 3 miles outside the marker. That would be for a light twin...farther out for big iron.

At that point, the air speed must be stabilized at the correct speed for that segment, landing checklist complete, power properly set, right down to the last detail.

Too hot, too high, mad scramble to do the check list.....very bad landing and for an instrument approach, probably gets your name in the paper.

This crew met none of that criteria.

As for the downwind landing, the pilot in command has the right to demand the appropriate runway.


25 posted on 02/05/2020 5:07:47 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: old curmudgeon

Theres a commercial pilot on YouTube called “blancolirio” who does a pretty good job of following the more recent accidents. He doesn’t venture far beyond facts available at the time so you don’t get a lot of bullcrap guessing, just an informed opinion. Check him out, if you are so inclined.

CC


26 posted on 02/05/2020 5:21:18 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Turkish Airlines have a habit over shooting runways


27 posted on 02/05/2020 5:36:35 PM PST by the_daug
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To: Celtic Conservative

Pilots in the 2000’s do not know airman ship - only how to monitor the flight control computers, being mostly trained in simulators and in some foreign countries are thrown into right seat with nothing more than simulator training.


28 posted on 02/05/2020 7:09:16 PM PST by Cheerio ( #44, the UNKNOWN Manchurian Candidate)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thanks, I’m flying Turkish Airlines this morning from Oslo to Istanbul.


29 posted on 02/05/2020 8:06:24 PM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: Swarthy Greek Immigrant
Ah Smyrna. Fond memories of Cigli AFB, for the short time that it existed.

Had two chapels there, one Protestant and one Catholic.

The Lord brought a Mom all the way from Texas (via Uncle Sugar's travel service) to teach us in Sunday School and pray the sinners prayer with our class.

Made a tremendous difference in my life.

30 posted on 02/05/2020 10:00:04 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: texas booster

You notice any original Orthodox chapels there? No? Oh. I wonder why........


31 posted on 02/05/2020 11:23:45 PM PST by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (NO MERCY TO TERRORISTS you dumb bastards! - Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump - Apr 21, 2013)
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To: Swarthy Greek Immigrant
And I was there in the 60’s, when Turkey was relatively “secular” by Islamic standards.

When my brother was stationed in Athens during the Turkish Cypress War, he felt that the U.S. supporting both sides (one of them Communist) was the height of lunacy.

But in fairness, there were some Orthodox chapels still left, such as a famous one in Constantinople ... just perverted in their use then and now.

32 posted on 02/05/2020 11:29:11 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: the_daug

Wind was reported 290 at 22 knots, gusting to 37 knots, wind variable 240 to 330. Why did the aircraft land on runway 06?


33 posted on 02/06/2020 5:53:01 AM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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