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Pelosi says Trump lawyers have 'disgraced' themselves, suggests disbarment
The Hill ^ | January 30, 2020 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 01/30/2020 10:18:59 AM PST by jazusamo

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday hammered the lawyers leading President Trump's impeachment defense, saying they've trampled on the Constitution while questioning how they've been allowed to keep their jobs.

"I don't know how they can retain their lawyer status, in the comments that they're making," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol.

Pelosi was responding largely to comments made Wednesday evening by Alan Dershowitz, a celebrity lawyer on Trump's legal team, who asserted on the Senate floor that presidents cannot be impeached for actions designed to boost their reelections — if they believe that retaining a grip on the White House is in the best interest of the country. And "every public official I know," he added, considers that to be the case.

"If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment," Dershowitz said.

The exception, said Dershowitz, an opinion contributor to The Hill, would be cases where the conduct violated a specific law. The Democrats' two impeachment articles, charging Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, fall outside the federal criminal code.

"The articles of impeachment violate the Constitution," Trump's leading lawyers, Jay Sekulow and Pat Cipollone, said at the outset of the Senate trial. "They are defective in their entirety."

Democrats have vehemently rejected the White House arguments, saying impeachment is an inherently political — not judicial — response designed to protect the country from elected officials who violate the public trust, crime or none. Their impeachment case hinges on allegations that Trump violated that trust in withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine to press the country's leaders to find dirt on his political rivals.

Pelosi on Thursday accused Trump's Republican allies of trying "to dismantle the Constitution" in their defense of the president.

"Some of them are even lawyers," she said. "Imagine that you would say — ever, of any president, no matter who he or she is or whatever party — if the president thinks that his or her presidency ... is good for the country, then any action is justified — including encouraging a foreign government to have an impact on our elections.

"[That] is exactly what our Founders were opposed to — and they feared," she added. "I don't think they made the case. I think they disgraced themselves terribly in terms of their violation of what our Constitution is about and what a president's behavior should be."

Pelosi's comments came several hours before the Senate launched the ninth day of the impeachment trial, featuring the second day when senators will be allowed to ask questions of Trump's defense team and the House Democrats' prosecuting the case.

A central battle throughout the Senate process has revolved around questions of whether new witnesses and material evidence, which has emerged since the House voted to impeach Trump last month, will be allowed to appear.

Democrats have argued for the new information, noting that every other Senate impeachment trial in the nation's history has featured witnesses. Republicans are virtually united in their opposition to that plan, saying it was the job of the House, not the Senate, to conduct the underlying investigation.

One witness, in particular, is a focus of the fight: John Bolton, Trump's former national security advisor, has offered to testify before the Senate under subpoena. And his forthcoming book includes first-hand allegations of the president telling him directly that he was withholding aid to Ukraine to secure politically tinged investigations into his Democratic rivals — a direct contradiction of Trump's defense.

The Senate is expected to vote on the question of whether to call witnesses on Friday. At least two Republicans — Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Mitt Romney (Utah) — have indicated they're likely to support that strategy. Democrats, however, need four defectors to secure the new information.

A wildcard in that debate is John Roberts, the chief justice of the Supreme Court who's presiding over the Senate trial.

Pelosi on Thursday said a Senate vote to acquit Trump would be invalid without calling new witnesses.

"He will not be acquitted. You cannot be acquitted if you don't have a trial; and you don't have a trial if you don't have witnesses and documentation," she said.

She also called on Roberts to step in and break a tie vote, in the event that three Republican senators vote for witnesses, creating a 50-50 tally. "I would think that they would have confidence in the chief justice of the United States," she said. "That's interesting to me that they're afraid of breaking a tie with the chief justice of the United States."

Pelosi declined to say if the House committees that have investigated Trump's pressure campaign in Ukraine — the issue that led to Trump's impeachment last month — would move to subpoena Bolton if the Senate does not.

"This is in the Senate now," she said. "We'll see what happens after that."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cipollone; dershowitz; fakeimpeachment; impeachment; nancypelosi; nutcase; nutjob; peach45; peachfotyfi; pelosi; presidenttrump; sekulow; senate; senatetrial; tds; trump; trumplegalteam
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So sad that this demented woman is second in line for the presidency.
1 posted on 01/30/2020 10:18:59 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

How can they have trampled on the Constitution when Pelousi has spent her entire political career using it as a tampon ?


2 posted on 01/30/2020 10:21:13 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: jazusamo

She has to have a way to say the whole senate process was tainted so she doesn’t get drawn and quartered by the base.


3 posted on 01/30/2020 10:21:27 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point do you at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622

Though for her that might be a better look.


4 posted on 01/30/2020 10:21:45 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point do you at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: jazusamo

Why don’t they just drop the pretenses and admit that they want to line us all against walls and shoot us?
The media would not criticize them for it. That’s why they get away with such outlandish behavior. We really are facing an attempted coup and ultimate dictatorship.


5 posted on 01/30/2020 10:22:13 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: jazusamo
Well, they did disgrace the dims position rather thoroughly.
6 posted on 01/30/2020 10:22:27 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: jazusamo

It’s hardly possible for her to BE more vile


7 posted on 01/30/2020 10:22:30 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: jazusamo

Pelousy should be ashamed of herself and the lynch mob she claims is a political party.


8 posted on 01/30/2020 10:23:23 AM PST by euram
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Third in line, don’t make it any worse than it is!

A vodka soaked, dementia riddled old hag as Speaker of the House. Pathetic. What’s worse is, she can spew this nonsense, and the media will hang on every word as if it was divinely inspired wisdom.


9 posted on 01/30/2020 10:23:24 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: jazusamo

Well, Nancy, if you’re going to tell a lie, you might as well tell a big one. (Where have we heard that before?)


10 posted on 01/30/2020 10:24:24 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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Wow, she’s gone nuclear projection.

I’ve said for months that they are like the car thief being chased by cops in those videos. Once the chase starts, everyone knows it’s not going to end well for the driver of the stolen car, but they never stop. They always end up against a tree, or sandwiched between cop cars riddled with bullets.

This chase is very close to that point. The desperation is tangible.


11 posted on 01/30/2020 10:24:58 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: jazusamo

Third in line; Pence is still there, as is Trump (and shall remain).


12 posted on 01/30/2020 10:25:07 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: jazusamo

I believe that statement is SanFran, “The Princess” Pelosi idea of what it means to “loose gracefully.”


13 posted on 01/30/2020 10:25:24 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: jazusamo

Crazy Aunt Nan.


14 posted on 01/30/2020 10:25:30 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Welcome to North Mexico, Gringo's it...)
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-- She has to have a way to say the whole senate process was tainted .. --

It's a fool-proof scam, guaranteed to work.

Send tainted or sham articles in the first place. Assert all sorts of bogus theories, go full Alice in Wonderland. The result in the senate is guaranteed to follow the lead. Blame the senate for the whole thing.

This can work over and over and over, because the press and the senate play along as though the articles are serious in the first place.

15 posted on 01/30/2020 10:25:43 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: jazusamo

Pelosi keeps proving that her age is warping her brain cells. She couldn’t have a conversation with any of them.


16 posted on 01/30/2020 10:25:47 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: jazusamo

If she’s such a ‘master strategist’ why does she have to do everything by blunt force?


17 posted on 01/30/2020 10:25:59 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: dp0622

Okay loser. Since the house failed to do it’s job, the PDJT lawyers are the fidiots. Sad sack nanzi.


18 posted on 01/30/2020 10:26:42 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: jazusamo

impeach nancy for bringing a frivolous impeachment. how’s that, you old wrinkled grey beaver?


19 posted on 01/30/2020 10:26:59 AM PST by Levy78
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To: jazusamo

“The other side’s lawyer should be disbarred”, said no winner ever.


20 posted on 01/30/2020 10:27:01 AM PST by cdcdawg (Cornpop was a bad dude!)
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