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Obamacare Still Enriching Insurance Companies
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2020 | Christian Josi

Posted on 01/29/2020 7:58:21 AM PST by Kaslin

As a conservative, you might want to stay mad at the insurance companies, because they are still gaming the system to make even more money off of Obamacare.  Right now, they are supporting legislation that will help health insurance companies to make even more money while harming doctors, patients and service providers.

The lead trade group for health insurers, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), were critical in helping to get Obamacare passed. They loved the idea of the federal government mandating that all Americans be forced to purchase their product. Healthcare Finance reported on March 23, 2012, “in March 2009, AHIP President Karen Ignagni told President Obama: ‘We hear the American people about what's not working. We've taken that very seriously. You have our commitment to play, to contribute, and to help pass health care reform this year.’"  Now they are working Congress again to use a crisis over “surprise medical billing” to pass legislation that allows them to make even more money in the future.

The issue of surprise medical billing has become the latest shiny object for Congress, yet health insurance companies have found a way to shift blame to put the burden on doctors and providers.  The problem is that insurance companies are the problem. They have successfully used an army of lobbyists to get members to embrace socialist price controls as a solution when they created the problem.

The health insurance industry supported change to health care law created by President Barack Obama increased premiums and helped the companies to make record profits. In September of 2019, the Trump Administration’s CMS (Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services) posted a blog that concluded “when President Trump took office in 2017, average individual market health insurance premiums in states using HealthCare.gov had already doubled when compared to 2013, the year before Obamacare’s main regulations took effect.” In 2018, the “average premiums went up by another 26%” and the prices were characterized as “spiking.” Many Americans had to drop coverage because they were paying high out of pocket expenses and could not afford the inflated prices.

While health insurers made massive profits from the spike in premiums, they also drafted up narrowed coverage to make it harder for patients to get insurance companies to pick up the tab for health care services. Health insurance companies love collecting inflated prices for coverage and they have found innovative ways to avoid paying for services by making coverage sparse. Now they are advocating for price controls that will shift cost from them, the creators of the problem, to doctors, providers and patients. Congress is close to considering legislation that will do more harm than good and further benefit insurance companies.

A number of conservative groups are opposing legislation sponsored by Senators Lamar Alexander (R-TN) and Patty Murray (D-WA) that would impose price controls on the industry and get the U.S. one step closer to a single-payer system.  The Hill reported on January 19, 2020, “conservative groups are gearing up for battle with GOP leaders over bipartisan health care legislation that lawmakers view as one of the few election-year bills that has a shot at making it to President Trump’s desk.” The bill uses something called “benchmarking” to impose price controls on services when out of the network of health insurance companies. 

It is no secret that health care is the most profitable industry in the U.S., surpassing tech, construction, retail and manufacturing. Three of the top 10 largest companies by revenue are in healthcare, including UnitedHealth Group, McKesson and CVS Health. The UnitedHealth Group is a managed health care company that pulled in $226.2 billion in 2018, according to Fortune. Health care insurance is a big winner in this crony fight to use Congress to shift cost away from insurance companies.

The core problem of surprise medical billing is that insurance companies draw their own networks and coverage in a way that makes it hard for their own clients to collect.  The coverage is purposely confusing making it hard to ever get the insurance companies to pay out for claims. When you go to the hospital, you see a number of different doctors and the insurance companies have made sure that virtually none of the people you see are covered by their plans.  They know they lose money when they actually have to pay out for expensive care, therefore they do everything they can to avoid covering it. 

The bottom line is that the legislation proposed by Sens. Alexander and Murray is geared towards making the same health insurance companies that paved the way for Obamacare make more money thanks to price controls.  If this bad idea becomes law, the U.S. will be one step closer to the Socialist single-payer system that has destroyed the European health care model.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 0carenightmare; barackhussein0bama; healthinsurance; obamacare; worstpresidentever

1 posted on 01/29/2020 7:58:21 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I cancelled health insurance the day Obmaacare became the law, on 1/1/2014. My wife and I are now 66. We’ve saved over $100,000 in after tax dollars. It’s life changing.

We did have one hospital visit, but the price was below what the deductible would have been. i.e. insurance would not have covered it anyway.

Now we are eligible for Medicare, but the Lord is faithful. We trust the great Physician.


2 posted on 01/29/2020 8:00:49 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Kaslin

That woman made a big mistake. You are either Pro-Life or you are democrat. You cannot be both. The democratic party ignores you. Some will vote democrat just because that is what they do. Others will learn from this.


3 posted on 01/29/2020 8:13:15 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: cuban leaf

There are some Freepers that want to take Medicare away, even though the recipients paid for it through their pay checks, unlike those who are on medicaid.


4 posted on 01/29/2020 8:13:40 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: cuban leaf
We’ve saved over $100,000 in after tax dollars. It’s life changing.

I’ve thought about self-insuring. With what I pay in premiums and deductibles, I’d be at your figure in a few years.

It would work great if only one could negotiate prices directly with doctors. I have one small ailment that requires an X-Ray every 6 months. I told the billing manager of my doctors’ group that I want to simply pay cash for the simple service. They looked at me like I was nuts. I went all the way through their accounting and also to their billing company (which explains why health care is so expensive) and found no one who could understand a straight-up cash payment. We’ve trained nearly everyone in the health-care operations now to simply accept the twisted, corrupt Soviet-style system we have now.

5 posted on 01/29/2020 8:14:23 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

Medicare is a Ponzi-scheme. What you and I paid in taxes was spent long ago. Moreover, costs have been pushed up by fake money and government well beyond whatever was paid in.

Like all Ponzi-schemes, its bound to collapse.


6 posted on 01/29/2020 8:16:59 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

I fell down a staircase about 10 days ago while trying to get a large two person recliner down. The thing literally pushed and threw me to the bottom. The Lord was watching out for me. I didn’t hit my head, only my butt hit pretty hard.

So I go to the chiropractor three days later and she takes x-rays and gives me some stretches. No bone or disk damage. Just pulled muscles, apparently.

She takes cash or credit card. Total bill: $85.

Our dentist charges us $250 a year for each of us. It includes two visits, complete with exam and cleaning, and one set of x-rays. Both of us needed crowns the last year. They were $750 each, total.


7 posted on 01/29/2020 8:19:43 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Kaslin

I think my doctor Momoney is in the game too.


8 posted on 01/29/2020 8:38:47 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: null and void; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; bgill; bitt; ...
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The problem is that insurance companies are the problem. They have successfully used an army of lobbyists to get members to embrace socialist price controls as a solution when they created the problem.

The health insurance industry supported change to health care law created by President Barack Obama increased premiums and helped the companies to make record profits.

In September of 2019, the Trump Administration’s CMS (Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services) posted a blog that concluded “when President Trump took office in 2017, average individual market health insurance premiums in states using HealthCare.gov had already doubled when compared to 2013, the year before Obamacare’s main regulations took effect.”

In 2018, the “average premiums went up by another 26%” and the prices were characterized as “spiking.” Many Americans had to drop coverage because they were paying high out of pocket expenses and could not afford the inflated prices.

While health insurers made massive profits from the spike in premiums, they also drafted up narrowed coverage to make it harder for patients to get insurance companies to pick up the tab for health care services.

Health insurance companies love collecting inflated prices for coverage and they have found innovative ways to avoid paying for services by making coverage sparse. Now they are advocating for price controls that will shift cost from them, the creators of the problem, to doctors, providers and patients.

Congress is close to considering legislation that will do more harm than good and further benefit insurance companies.

9 posted on 01/29/2020 8:51:57 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Kaslin

I stopped watching network television years ago, but on those rare occasions when I’m exposed to it again, I’m always astounded with the multitude of health care commercials there are as well as all the new illnesses that have been created to sell products. I find the same to be true on commercial radio. Then there’s all the new health facilities being built seemingly everywhere these days. The health care industry is not impoverished.


10 posted on 01/29/2020 9:14:49 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Kaslin

11 posted on 01/29/2020 11:55:43 AM PST by 4Liberty (Impeached, for a retort about Rosie's unhealthy weight. Why not for Obama's "Special Olympics" slur?)
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To: Kaslin
As a conservative, you might want to stay mad at the insurance companies

Why would I ever stop being mad at insurance companies? It's one of the few bastard industries that think that government is a business model. You pay them, then they decide what you're going to get (while often offering a bunch of stuff you don't need or want). One insurance company (even pre-Ebolacare) was actually advertising as an advantage that they butt into your life more than the competition so you should buy their product!

Technically, since insurance companies produce no value, they shouldn't make a 'profit'. What they do have is a lot of OPM in the bank, and historically how cooperative insurance companies paid staff and expenses was on income from retained premiums waiting to be paid out in claims. So, technically, they could pay 100% of premiums back in claims and still have money for wages and the electric bill (though obviously not in the short term, they have to have a reserver). Since they're not creating anything tangible of value, they should.

It's like HOAs. You give them money, they set out rules for you to follow, and fine you for even more money if you transgress. It's like a mini-goobermint with less due process. Which would be fine if we were short on goobermint, but we have about six times more than we need with just the professional stuff, without adding 'voluntary' levels on top of it.

12 posted on 01/30/2020 4:31:10 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: cuban leaf

I saw my premiums go from $300/month to $3,000 per month.
Thanks United Healthcare and the Democrat party.

Dumped them quickly and went cash only. My GP works with me.

Fortunately the wife and I are healthy and in our late 50’s.


13 posted on 01/30/2020 4:39:31 PM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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