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The Spin Is Real: Joe Biden's Team Explains 'What Really Happened In Ukraine'
Townhall ^ | 01/21/2020 | Beth Baumann

Posted on 01/21/2020 7:17:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind

While the House impeachment managers were making the argument that witnesses should be called during the Senate's trial, former Vice President Joe Biden's Rapid Response Director Andrew Bates was busy telling voters "what really happened in Ukraine."

"Donald Trump was caught redhanded. And I'm going to give you the facts," Bates said. "So what really happened in Ukraine? In 2014, Russia invaded the country and the U.S. and our allies decided that we had to support them against this Russian aggression. President Obama turned to Vice President Joe Biden to lead that effort because of his history in foreign policy."

"So there was this guy, Viktor Shokin. He was the Prosecutor General of Ukraine, which is like the Attorney General in the United States. He became the embodiment of the corruption that has been hurting Ukraine's government for a long time. Everyone – from the EU to the IMF, Republican senators, the entire anti-corruption activist community in Ukraine – desperately wanted him fired," Bates said. "He was being protested in the streets. And Joe Biden is the person who got him out of office. It was a monumental, bipartisan, anti-corruption victory."

"Three Republican senators signed on to that bipartisan effort – Rob Portman of Ohio, Ron Johnson from Wisconsin and Mark Kirk from Illinois. So where does Donald Trump fit into all of this?" the staffer asked. "He claims that because the vice president's son, Hunter, was on the board of the Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma, that Biden somehow acted inappropriately when he advocated for Viktor Shokin to lose his job. The clinical term for that is horse sh*t."

Bates argued Biden was following official U.S. policy when he advocated for Shokin's removal and it had been more than a year since Shokin had investigated Burisma.

"The truth of this is the exact opposite of what Donald Trump has been telling you. The fact is that getting him out of office meant it was more likely that Burisma would face any scrutiny," the Biden staffer said. "But what Donald Trump also doesn't want you to know is that the investigation into Burisma had to do with things that happened years before Hunter Biden had any kind of relationship with that company."

According to Bates, the entire saga is "bullsh*t." Specifically, Bates cited Kurt Volker's testimony, when Volker said Trump was floating "self-serving" conspiracy theories that lacked any credibility.

"Donald Trump was caught red-handed undermining our national security in trying to force a foreign country to smear the candidate who he is terrified of running against in November," the Biden staffer explained.

Bates cited the whistleblower reporter and the transcript of the July 25th call as evidence of Trump's fear of running against Biden.

"His objective was to force Ukraine to spread a comprehensively debunked right-wing conspiracy theory about the vice president that the Washington Post fact-checker has called a 'fountain of lies,'" the staffer said.

According to Bates, Trump orchestrated this entire saga because "he knows he can't beat Joe Biden. So he did something that literally no American president, ever in our history, not even Richard Nixon, ever stooped to. He tried to make our national security policy an extension of his struggling re-election campaign."

The Biden campaign is delusional. For one, Biden isn't the only Democrat running for president and there's absolutely no guarantee that he'll get the nomination. That's just an assumption his campaign is running with.

Two, Ukraine was never given military aid under the Obama administration. It happened under Trump.

And three, how are the American people supposed to turn a blind eye to the corruption the Bidens engaged in? Hunter Biden had absolutely zero natural energy experience yet he was making between $50,000 and $83,000 a month to sit on the board of Burisma. How does that happen?

How are the American people supposed to believe that Hunter Biden and even Joe Biden, for that matter, are innocent when Hunter was raking the rough while his dad was handling international relations with Ukraine on behalf of the Obama administration?

Biden staffers can call this "horse sh*t" or "bull sh*t" but guess what? It's swampy. It's the kind of behavior Americans hate seeing in our politicians. And President Trump had a right to ask Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to look into the corruption taking place in his country.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bidencorrupt; burisma; hunterbiden; joebiden; ukraine

1 posted on 01/21/2020 7:17:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: All

No one is afraid of Biden besides young girls.


2 posted on 01/21/2020 7:20:13 PM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/01/21/book-bombshell-james-bidens-firm-got-1-5-billion-in-government-contracts-despite-zero-experience/

Too much there there to be wished away by a self serving video by a campaign stooge

Here is more


3 posted on 01/21/2020 7:21:05 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

For a rapid response guy he sure took a long time to address this. What he danced around is that he is arguing that it i okay for Biden to collect that money.


4 posted on 01/21/2020 7:31:11 PM PST by freedomrings69
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To: SeekAndFind

FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor

https://youtu.be/Q0_AqpdwqK4?t=3074


5 posted on 01/21/2020 7:31:31 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"But what Donald Trump also doesn't want you to know is that the investigation into Burisma had to do with things that happened years before Hunter Biden had any kind of relationship with that company."

This is pure spin. It's called defeating a straw man. He is pretending that the allegation against the Bidens is that Hunter did something improper while on the board and therefore Burisma was being investigated. The actual allegation goes like this:

1. Burisma engaged in allegedly criminal behavior.

2. Shokin begins investigating Burisma.

3. Burisma hires someone whose only qualification for the job is that his dad can help Burisma stop the investigation.

4. His dad gets Shokin fired. Check.

Thus the "defense" that Hunter Biden did nothing wrong while on the board of Burisma is no defense at all. In fact, the allegation against the Bidens is precisely that Hunter did nothing right or wrong. He just collected hundreds of thousands of dollars while his father allegedly did the heavy lifting to help Burisma.

6 posted on 01/21/2020 7:45:35 PM PST by edwinland
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To: SeekAndFind

The lying that is going on just floors me... my God in Heaven... stop the evil madness that is being thrown all over... if you do not have discernment.. does it seem believable?

POWER has become that addictive ... to do what we see happening.
there is a place for them.


7 posted on 01/21/2020 7:46:15 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: SeekAndFind

The lying that is going on just floors me... my God in Heaven... stop the evil madness that is being thrown all over... if you do not have discernment.. does it seem believable?

POWER has become that addictive ... to do what we see happening.
there is a place for them.


8 posted on 01/21/2020 7:46:19 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie
"The lying that is going on just floors me..."

This is the result of a corrupt press; a press that is totally in the camp of the leftist, commie SOB's.
If we had an honest press in America, none of this would be happening.

9 posted on 01/21/2020 7:53:19 PM PST by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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To: SeekAndFind
...And I'm going to give you the facts...

In poker this is called a 'tell'. It means they are about to lie big time.

10 posted on 01/21/2020 8:05:34 PM PST by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong ...and Epstein did not kill himself.)
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To: edwinland

Thank you!


11 posted on 01/21/2020 8:27:54 PM PST by Callnote (Solid state is the way to go!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, son of a bitch.


12 posted on 01/22/2020 2:26:47 AM PST by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Bates argued Biden was following official U.S. policy when he advocated for Shokin’s removal..”

That doesn’t make it better.

L


13 posted on 01/22/2020 2:34:13 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: edwinland

The video maybe consist a third of important facts carefully selected and then it is spinned illogically. I like the ending: ‘that is all you need to know about it!’.


14 posted on 01/22/2020 5:36:28 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Lurker

Legally it is not making a crime non-crime. His son is still a benefactor as a Burisma board member. The newly appointed AG immediately closed investigation.


15 posted on 01/22/2020 5:38:26 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: edwinland

Yep, that is the very definition of bribery.


16 posted on 01/22/2020 5:40:22 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind

Bates’ parsing sounds like Andy Griffith’s character, John Wallace, in his court testimony in “Murder in Coweta County”: tortured, thoroughly ridiculous attempt to rationalize reprehensible behavior and deflect blame away from somebody who’s guilty as sin.

Any cop could see through it immediately.


17 posted on 01/22/2020 9:07:29 AM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Your post #5 SAYS IT ALL. Case CLOSED!

Instead, the merry-go-round ride continues as if Biden's innocent of any wrong doing.

It's all part of the inside the beltway's ongoing "Kabuki theater" performance.

18 posted on 01/22/2020 9:47:16 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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