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Whoa! GOP does not have 51 votes to dismiss?
American Thinker ^ | 01/14/2020 | Patricia McCarthy

Posted on 01/14/2020 7:21:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

How imbecilic are those Republicans trying to make a name for themselves by supporting the unconstitutional Schiff/Pelosi articles of impeachment? Beyond polite description.

Susan Collins, Rob Portman, probably the self-serving Mitt Romney, are each trying to be the biggest monkey wrenches in an already ridiculous endeavor to remove President Trump from office. Each of them should just admit they are Democrats at heart and switch parties. How else to explain their betrayal of their own party? Poor judgment is one thing, like Matt Gaetz voting for Pelosi's meaningless resolution to limit Trump's ability to counteract Iran. That was just dumb, a hopefully momentary lapse. As for the rest of them, they are idiotic, masters of their own demise. If they fail to realize that Donald Trump is the most successful, most popular president in decades, perhaps ever, they do not have the requisite brains to hold public office.

If they do not realize by now that the impeachment over a boring phone conversation with the president of Ukraine is as big a hoax as the Russia-collusion story rom the outset, they are too dim to have any political power in the Republican Party. Send them over to the Democrats where they belong. While Republicans are often the stupid party, Democrats are the evil party; they support terrorists like Qassem Soleimani, and brutal tyrannies like those in Iran and Venezuela. Trump has trolled them into defending the indefensible.

Who among us knows what Mitch McConnell has up his sleeve? Let us hope he has a plan to demolish the Dems' specious plan to impeach, a plan that was hatched before Donald Trump was even inaugurated.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: lurk

The outcome is known already. The question is the amount of drama will be added to the dish.


So true. Not only can’t they manage a budget , they use their office as free air time for puffing up their desire for truth at all costs...


21 posted on 01/14/2020 7:48:41 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope you’re right - I don’t trust Romney. I think he’s capable of pulling a McCain.

I think they should dismiss for the sake of future presidents. A case that does not reach the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors should be dismissed. If it is not, it sets a precedent that future opposition parties can make minor charges for impeachment and expect it will be tried. It should be tossed.


22 posted on 01/14/2020 7:49:51 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: taxcontrol
In the broadest view, the senate rules of impeachment first accept the articles and then forward the articles to the Senate Judiciary committee for review...

 

This is correct. And if/when the articles are presented, McConnell has the sole power to DENY them. To return them and the Managers back to the House. No votes needed. No hearings, no nothing.

 

23 posted on 01/14/2020 7:50:40 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (As a matter of fact, I DID only read the excerpt. OK, I intended to. Next time for sure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Their are no rules for a coup. It’s all backroom plotting and backstabbing.


24 posted on 01/14/2020 7:53:08 AM PST by robel
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To: DoodleDawg

It’s better for Trump to go through the farce of a trial and have them vote to acquit.


Ted Cruz brought up that point this morning on Fox News.

This is better than a dismissal. He indicated acquittal shows the claims were baseless and is better for Trump long run.


25 posted on 01/14/2020 7:54:08 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: MNJohnnie

I thought not in this case?


26 posted on 01/14/2020 7:56:32 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: patriotspride

A Trial is the “Briar Patch”


27 posted on 01/14/2020 7:56:51 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoodleDawg
That ends it.

HA!

You're naîveté is showing.

As long as a democrat who could be hung for treason, imprisoned for malfeasance, or exposed for what they are with the attendent loss of position, power and wealth draws a breath, they will find a pretext for yet another round of impeachments.

People have been murdered for pocket change. How much more motivation does someone who, in an honest investigation, would lose their senatorial power, their freedom, their personal wealth, and perhaps their very lives have to have to 'remove this troublesome priest president' by any means necessary?

28 posted on 01/14/2020 7:58:35 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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To convict an accused, "the concurrence of two thirds of the
[Senators] present" for at least one article is required.
If there is no
single charge commanding a "guilty" vote from two-thirds of the senators
present, the defendant is acquitted and no punishment is imposed.
29 posted on 01/14/2020 7:59:32 AM PST by deport
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To: SeekAndFind

Susan Collins likes lots of political foreplay before she finishes whatever it is she is doing. Always has.


30 posted on 01/14/2020 8:00:40 AM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

He is the president of the Senate. There is no conflict of interest as a result. Although the slime-o-crats will howl like hell because of it.


31 posted on 01/14/2020 8:01:04 AM PST by crz
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WATCH: Joe Biden Brags About Rigging The Ukranian Political System

WATCH: Joe Biden Brags About Rigging The Ukranian Political System

32 posted on 01/14/2020 8:07:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Whoa! GOP does not have 51 votes to dismiss?”

Welcome to the party, pal.

McConnell said in early December that there was not a majority in the caucus to dismiss. That means that there are AT LEAST 27 GOP “no” votes on a motion to dismiss. Never mind “don’t have 51”, they don’t have 27.

And Jeff Flake said there are 35 GOP votes to convict, if the Senators were allowed to vote in secret. Now, allowing for the fact that Flake is a rejected BS artist, nobody on the GOP side of the aisle called him a liar.

All this “The impeachment is DOA, GOP Senate says bye-bye to impeachment, the GOP will shut it down” is foolish nonsense. Aren’t you paying attention to what these creatures have done to resist Trump, disrupt his government, while praying for his fall?

What do you think the GOP is, really?


33 posted on 01/14/2020 8:07:13 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Responsibility2nd

While that is a viable option, it would deny the President’s team from getting their message out. It would also miss the opportunity to expose the corruption of the Bidens and the true scale of the deep state attempt to overturn the election.

I am of the opinion that is why Nancy is slow rolling the articles. She KNOW that if the Senate (where she has no control) begins to investigate the whole Russia hoax, the Dems will be exposed and will likely loose control of the House in the election due to voter backlash.


34 posted on 01/14/2020 8:07:20 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
By the end of the day they vote to convict, all in favor will be floating down the Potomac to the sea.

35 posted on 01/14/2020 8:08:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: MNJohnnie

“50-50 tie Mike Pence is the 51 tie breaking vote”

For motions made during the trial that are 50-50, the motion either fails or Mr. Chief Justice Roberts is the tie-breaker.


36 posted on 01/14/2020 8:09:07 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Jim Noble

During the trial, not during a vote on dismissal of the charges outright. That is Senate business


37 posted on 01/14/2020 8:10:11 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: patriotspride

Wasn’t Clinton acquitted in his impeachment trial? The charges were certainly not baseless in the case of Clinton. In fact I was shocked when Ken Starr chose to bring so few charges from the many possible ones.


38 posted on 01/14/2020 8:10:25 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: MNJohnnie

“During the trial, not during a vote on dismissal of the charges outright. That is Senate business”

It’s irrelevant.

There aren’t 30 votes to dismiss, further discussion is pointless.


39 posted on 01/14/2020 8:16:41 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: taxcontrol

Most political experts and commentators believe Trump would NOT be better served with being exonerated with a Senate Trial. Just vote to acquit and be done with it. Besides - another impeachment is always just down the road.

Most political experts and commentators also believe a Durham/Barr Report will be the correct vehicle to start the criminal trials against the Bidens and their scandals.


40 posted on 01/14/2020 8:18:26 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (As a matter of fact, I DID only read the excerpt. OK, I intended to. Next time for sure.)
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