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Whoa! GOP does not have 51 votes to dismiss?
American Thinker ^ | 01/14/2020 | Patricia McCarthy

Posted on 01/14/2020 7:21:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

How imbecilic are those Republicans trying to make a name for themselves by supporting the unconstitutional Schiff/Pelosi articles of impeachment? Beyond polite description.

Susan Collins, Rob Portman, probably the self-serving Mitt Romney, are each trying to be the biggest monkey wrenches in an already ridiculous endeavor to remove President Trump from office. Each of them should just admit they are Democrats at heart and switch parties. How else to explain their betrayal of their own party? Poor judgment is one thing, like Matt Gaetz voting for Pelosi's meaningless resolution to limit Trump's ability to counteract Iran. That was just dumb, a hopefully momentary lapse. As for the rest of them, they are idiotic, masters of their own demise. If they fail to realize that Donald Trump is the most successful, most popular president in decades, perhaps ever, they do not have the requisite brains to hold public office.

If they do not realize by now that the impeachment over a boring phone conversation with the president of Ukraine is as big a hoax as the Russia-collusion story rom the outset, they are too dim to have any political power in the Republican Party. Send them over to the Democrats where they belong. While Republicans are often the stupid party, Democrats are the evil party; they support terrorists like Qassem Soleimani, and brutal tyrannies like those in Iran and Venezuela. Trump has trolled them into defending the indefensible.

Who among us knows what Mitch McConnell has up his sleeve? Let us hope he has a plan to demolish the Dems' specious plan to impeach, a plan that was hatched before Donald Trump was even inaugurated.

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1 posted on 01/14/2020 7:21:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Now that’s what I call a well written article.


2 posted on 01/14/2020 7:24:27 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rob Portman is a useless pile of cow dung.


3 posted on 01/14/2020 7:24:29 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Traitors are exposing themselves left and right. There are other options which are becoming necessary. We have been in need of a Constitutional restart for awhile.


4 posted on 01/14/2020 7:25:19 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the daitbe decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: SeekAndFind

They only need 50.


5 posted on 01/14/2020 7:25:57 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: DarthVader

Useless Charlie Sierras.


6 posted on 01/14/2020 7:26:40 AM PST by Roklok
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To: SeekAndFind

Which one’s are up for re-election soon, in pink or blue states?

It’s a lot easier to look fair to independents if you allow the trial rather than to dismiss it right away and you know the DNC will sink a lot of money into pointing this out in their ads before the next election.


7 posted on 01/14/2020 7:28:29 AM PST by z3n
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To: Roklok

Yeah they are and we need to put a permanent end to their careers and take away all ill gotten gain. Time to take off the mask of civility.


8 posted on 01/14/2020 7:29:10 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the daitbe decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not surprised. I always thought there had to be enough dirt on enough RINOs that they were NOT reliable to stick with the president. The obvious ones, Collins, Murkowski, Romney, can always count on someone doing some grandstanding....Paul, Lee, Portman, and now Gaetz.


9 posted on 01/14/2020 7:29:19 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: SeekAndFind
The Democrat Party of today is truly traitorous. They mean to destroy America as founded and remake it into their perverted version of an authoritarian, statist nightmare.

That happens to be the Founding Principles of the Democrat Party
10 posted on 01/14/2020 7:30:01 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: SeekAndFind

50-50 tie Mike Pence is the 51 tie breaking vote


11 posted on 01/14/2020 7:32:16 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: JudyinCanada

OK, I have heard from our New York Morning drive time talk shows that Romney is actually going with the the rest of the GOP.

Susan Collins is simply being Susan Collins. In the end, she tends to vote with the rest of the party.


12 posted on 01/14/2020 7:33:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: MNJohnnie

50-50 tie Mike Pence is the 51 tie breaking vote

yep ,LOL


13 posted on 01/14/2020 7:34:01 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind

The outcome is known already. The question is the amount of drama will be added to the dish.


14 posted on 01/14/2020 7:38:24 AM PST by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind
The author should perhaps have had only one cup of coffee instead of...eight, before writing that.

It's annoying that some of those Republicans aren't willing to dismiss out of the box, but I don't think they're doing it "trying to make a name" for themselves, as the author claimed. Rather, they're generally those Republicans who are up for election, whose seats aren't secure, and who may have a tough time defending a vote to dismiss before the case even gets started in the Senate.

For political reasons -- basically, not getting beaten by a Democrat in November -- they want to maintain at least an image of neutrality. So, they won't vote to dismiss before the case gets started. That does not mean they won't vote to acquit, because a vote to acquit after a trial lets you claim that you were at least "open-minded".

Each of them should just admit they are Democrats at heart and switch parties.

That is wildly premature, and almost certainly wrong. The author is equating a vote to proceed to trial -- which is what a somewhat squishy Republican might do -- with a vote to convict, which is where the dividing line for GOP v. Rat is really going to matter.

15 posted on 01/14/2020 7:38:33 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: z3n

Bingo.


16 posted on 01/14/2020 7:38:52 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: butlerweave

I thought the VP was blocked from breaking ties due to his inherent conflict of interest.


17 posted on 01/14/2020 7:41:36 AM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill ( ERIC CIARAMELLA IS THE OBAMA MOLE HIDING BEHIND THE WHISTLEBLOWER LAWS)
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To: SeekAndFind
Freepers living in states with RINO senators should contact and encourage their conservative friends to contact - those senators and read them the riot act.

Something I don't quite understand. A RINO senator may act to satisfy moderates and leftists but why doesn't he fear losing conservative votes, without which he/she would not be elected. Are we to believe that all the republican voters in these RINO states are moderates and leftists?

I think the answer to this puzzle is that senators like Collins simply take the republican vote for granted knowing that the alternative is electing a democrat.

18 posted on 01/14/2020 7:42:10 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: SeekAndFind

In the broadest view, the senate rules of impeachment first accept the articles and then forward the articles to the Senate Judiciary committee for review. I believe it is here that the “trial” that President Trump wants can and should occur. It would be during this “review” that I believe the President’s legal team should be granted the same rights that the House Judiciary committee were granted and also limit the House managers to the same rules that were afforded to the President during the House impeachment hearings.

After all, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. It would force the Dems to defend their one sided approach.


19 posted on 01/14/2020 7:45:03 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not as it stands now, no. It’s better for Trump to go through the farce of a trial and have them vote to acquit. That ends it. Dismiss and the Democrats will flood the airwaves with ads on how the Senate refused to hold a trial because they knew Trump was guilty.


20 posted on 01/14/2020 7:46:51 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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