Posted on 01/12/2020 5:44:52 AM PST by Kaslin
And how about a combined Marvel superhero, Easter bunny, earth mother of all things? Would such a creature by definition be the same?
I don’t ask this to mock God, but rather to mock the poor logical argument that if we conceive an all-powerful in our mind, but definition the conception must be all powerful and must therefore exist.
The smell of baking bread.
The thought expressed in another way is: The rational conclusion is there is no other course but God
Having arrived at that point, the differences and diversity in thought come into play
Until then....no.
I dont ask this to mock God
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Would that be the God you seem to not believe in?
How’s this for an argument?
“If you exist, then God must exist”.
Virtual particles on into existence out of nothing.
I don’t ‘conceive’ God in my mind. I ‘perceive’ Him. Big difference. As Romans 1 and David in the Psalms and Job concurred, He has spoken throughout history through the amazing Creation around us all screaming out of His intricate design. Do you honestly think DNA or the atom came into being by willing itself to tell the ‘next-non-failure’ to self-modify? How? by little Post-it’s?
Jesus said that those who seek God (truly honestly seek) will find Him.
The Atheist’ root motive is to deny absolute accountability. Our sinful nature abhors accountability and will craft any vain imagination to prop up that vapor of a structure of deniability.
There is a much simpler proof that God exists.
First. one must define God. The term means many things to different people.
The simpler proof is to experience God first hand. Why read and study the manual on how to ride a bike if you never get on and ride. The Bible is the manual on how to experience God. People keep reading the manual but never go for the ride.
I’m a neuroscientist and have presented and demonstrated on the “Neuroscience of Prayer” and “The science supporting the Bible.”
First, I define God as any level of consciousness that exists above the level that I exist. My Father’s Mansion has many rooms or levels. We are stuck in the basement. Jesus is God as He is in a higher level.
I invite atheists, agnostics and freethinkers to my presentations. I have had hundreds attend and have had many wonderful comments and feedback. I have never had a negative comment.
The human soul is much like an airplane and most people are stuck never getting off the ground. They read and study the airplane, but never get in and fly. They belong to the “Flat Consciousness Society!”
The entire process of the Bible and every other religion can be explained in “frequencies of consciousness” and how to purify and raise the soul frequencies to higher levels. Scientific studies have proven this.
Perception of reality is a function of the frequency of consciousness from which you view it. I merely raise my frequency and the souls of others becomes physical to me. It’s how the mystics of all religions do what they do.
Prayer, meditation and following the guidelines set forth in the Bible are the tools to raise consciousness frequency. Sin is any obstacle to Love that exists within a person’s soul. These are physical to me. In fact, if I walk near a person and merely push the memory of the sin many feet from a person’s physical body, it often knocks them off their feet.
You folks make this way to complex. Socrates understood what I am saying. Plato did not. Many of the Greek pre Socratic philosophers understood it too. It really is simple when you go for the experience rather than the intellectual understanding.
I’ve been reading Maimonedes’ “Guide for the Perplexed”.
Taking me a long time, each section very rich in thought-provoking analysis. And his voluminous references keep sending me off on tangents to further investigate.
But all in all, an excellent apologetic exegis.
Descartes is give credit for the statement, “I think therefore I am.” That really is a dumb statement as it is very circular. If I ask him who it is that “Is doing the thinking?” his reply would be “me”, or “I am.”
My reply would be, “Who is I?”
The human physical body is merely a cocoon for the development of consciousness, like a seed pod does for a plant, until it grows to exist without the seed pod and it sheds it. When you grow spiritually, you begin to perceive directly from consciousness without your 5 physical senses.
It takes some work, but you quickly learn to know the thoughts of others and learn more in epiphanies than reading and studying. In the beginning was the word, and that word was made flesh. A word is merely a metaphor for pattern of consciousness that has meaning. That is how we were made in God’s image. We are seeds of consciousness.
I like your thinking.
There are a lot of folks that think there is only one manual, and one way to ride that bicycle.
I agree with you morebut I never liked reading manuals.
Also, if trees, pants, animals, etc exist, so must God.
The difficulty is that in order to grow you must become “whole” in your masculine and feminine consciousness. This is why Paul stated that it is better to remain single as you go within and find bother to become “whole.” Love is the glue that connects to each aspect of consciousness and stabilize the soul. Love is the glue that holds the soul together.
However, it is ok to marry. If you do the two souls combine in the eyes of God and become “One.” The two souls are held together with Love which allows both of them combined to grow closer to God.
However, it is as though one is the left leg and the spouse is the right leg. They use each other’s souls to stand up. Problem is, when your partner dies your soul has a huge vacancy and you fall over. This is what causes the depression after the loss of a loved one.
I was presenting at a psychology conference and a woman in her 70’s volunteered for a demonstration. I walked back and touched her soul from about 10 feet from her physical body. Her body began swinging wildly in circles. I stopped and explained that when this happens, usually a person has lost a loved one and they haven’t gone through the grieving process.
She replied, “My husband died two weeks ago.”
Two souls are like a catamaran on the turmoil of the ocean, stabilizing each other. When one dies, they become like a canoe or kayak getting tossed around. The most destabilized are those who are still searching for their catamaran partner and have not yet found balance within themselves.
For someone defending the existence of God, this is an extremely poor (irrational) article.
Anselm's ontological argument always seemed weak to me. If I understand it, he says that because I can imagine a God who is greater than anything then he must exist because his existence in reality would be greater than in my imagination. But I can imagine a lot of things that would be greater in reality than in my mind. That doesn't mean they exist. It just doesn't add up for me.
Because they stop at Darwin and never gave any thought to where everything came from
No they don't. Offer proof for your statement.
Simply stating that something is the case is ignorant.
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