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THE CRESCENT DUNES SOLAR PROJECT


1 posted on 01/08/2020 6:46:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Beyond stupid.


2 posted on 01/08/2020 6:48:21 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Something not fixed by rubbing a little money on it?

I'm shocked.

4 posted on 01/08/2020 6:54:37 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve read that due to cheap solar panels (over-produced by China) electricity from large-scale Solar power may be cheaper than coal or gas. The problem is scalability - the footprint is of course huge - and as such will never become a large percentage of an electrical system.


5 posted on 01/08/2020 6:57:24 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

The contracts to purchase the electricity from the constantly broken plant will be voided. Bloomberg Businessweek claims that Crescent Dunes was obsoleted by technological advances in the form of photovoltaic based solar plants. That is nonsense and misses the whole point of the Crescent Dunes project. It also misses the reality that all utility-scale solar is a failure — not marginal, not growing into being practical, but a total and complete failure.

...

From what I’ve read, utility scale thin film solar and onshore wind are now economical and can compete without subsidies.

https://www.lazard.com/media/451086/lazards-levelized-cost-of-energy-version-130-vf.pdf


7 posted on 01/08/2020 7:02:08 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This professor is a good resource for all things power and energy. I recommend that you subscribe to him.

“Energy Stats: Then and Now, Here and There”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Bi2LpLoK8&feature=youtu.be

He also talks at length about nuclear power, has a video on fracking...


8 posted on 01/08/2020 7:03:42 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind
There have been several places on earth that *I've* visted where solar just might make sense...either now or at some point in the future (when the cost of producing a killowatt hour of power comes down). Those places are 1) the Arabian Peninsula (lots and lots of sun and close to the equator) 2) the Australian Outback (ditto) a 3) Arizona/Nevada/California.

But the fact that a facility in Nevada has failed suggests that I could be wrong.

11 posted on 01/08/2020 7:05:59 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re right.


20 posted on 01/08/2020 7:21:30 AM PST by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

Wind and solar will always be extremely wasteful in terms of land use. There are probably cases where that doesn’t matter, but it is nonetheless so. They take up hundreds or thousands of acres where on a postage stamp you can produce several times the energy. In this case, 100 MW projected (and never attained) on 300 acres, and for comparison a plant I’m familiar with produces 280 on 10 acres. Wind farms, of course, go on for thousands of acres, chopping up birds as they go.


21 posted on 01/08/2020 7:23:17 AM PST by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

Another solar plant I’m familiar with produces 250 MW on 2000 acres of a 4000 acre site. They are limited to half the acreage so that wildlife can pass through. Again, 250 on several thousand acres versus 280 on 10.


22 posted on 01/08/2020 7:28:50 AM PST by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

It sort of looks “cool” and futuristic; however, the reality is that taxpayers were ripped off supporting the boondoggle. This being ripped off by these frauds is getting old.


23 posted on 01/08/2020 7:33:04 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m still accepting new investors in my high-tech, super-green startup venture. It’s called SunWindDeliveranceYay!
SuWinDelYa, get in now!


24 posted on 01/08/2020 7:33:58 AM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a Billion Dollar Air Fryer.


25 posted on 01/08/2020 7:36:59 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

How much in campaign contributions was received and to who ?


26 posted on 01/08/2020 7:42:09 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: SunkenCiv

Did I ping you to this one ?


29 posted on 01/08/2020 8:46:46 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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