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No, Killing Soleimani Didn't Require a Congressional Vote
FrontPageMag ^ | Daniel Greenfield | Jan 6, 2020

Posted on 01/06/2020 3:55:49 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

Every time a terrorist gets blown up, the lefty/libertarian caucus cries, "AUMF".

That stands for Authorization for Use of Military Force. In other words, they want Congress to take a vote and declare war and whatnot. There are two things wrong with this argument.

1. The 9/11 AUMF vote (the one Obama wanted Congress to withdraw on his way out) covers a whole range of Islamic terrorists. It was a bipartisan authorization that covers the use of "all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism."

And yes, as the 9/11 Commission Report notes, that includes Iran, which had a hand in harboring and training.

So Iran is already covered by an AUMF. The lefty-libertarian caucus can clamor to have that AUMF withdrawn. They can't however complain that President Trump doesn't have legal authority to launch attacks on Iranian terrorists.

2. Killing an Iranian terror leader outside Iran in Baghdad, which is well within the congressionally authorized scope of military operations, in response to repeated attacks by Soleimani's terrorists against American personnel, has zero AUMF issues.

Congress doesn't need to declare war against specific terrorists before we kill them, if they're attacking us. We don't need an AUMF for self-defense.

Soleimani was killed in response to attacks on US personnel. We had intel suggesting that he had something even nastier than the current rocket attacks and embassy attacks planned.

Iran perpetrated an attack on our embassy in Iraq. And yet the media keeps complaining that the United States is violating international law and bringing the world closer to war.

Attacking an embassy is far more of a violation of international law than killing a terror leader in a war zone.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 202001; aumf; iran; iraq; qasemsoleimani; qudsforce; usembassyplots
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1 posted on 01/06/2020 3:55:49 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Exactly.


2 posted on 01/06/2020 3:58:48 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Hey leftards, you babies can impeach President Trump again

At this point, what difference does it make? Your terrorist friend is still in a million pieces either way and President Trump will still be your President...


3 posted on 01/06/2020 4:03:57 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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Well, the terrorist is dead, so obviously it didn’t take a congressional vote. That, and if Trump told congress they would have warned Iran.

Not to mention, why would Trump care since the House already shot their wad and impeached him?


4 posted on 01/06/2020 4:08:20 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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I’m getting irate over the commie traitors in this country subverting our President. To Hell with these bastards and bitches.


5 posted on 01/06/2020 4:09:52 PM PST by HighSierra5
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Every time a terrorist gets blown up, the lefty/libertarian caucus cries, "AUMF". That stands for Authorization for Use of Military Force... Iran is already covered by an AUMF. The lefty-libertarian caucus can clamor to have that AUMF withdrawn. They can't however complain that President Trump doesn't have legal authority to launch attacks on Iranian terrorists. Killing an Iranian terror leader outside Iran in Baghdad, which is well within the congressionally authorized scope of military operations, in response to repeated attacks by Soleimani's terrorists against American personnel, has zero AUMF issues.

6 posted on 01/06/2020 4:10:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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We’re going to have a war here before we have a war against Iran. Come to think of it the war has already started.


7 posted on 01/06/2020 4:12:12 PM PST by HighSierra5
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Iran perpetrated an attack on our embassy in Iraq. And yet the media keeps complaining that the United States is violating international law and bringing the world closer to war.

We’ve been at war with the Iranian Mullahs since 1979.

8 posted on 01/06/2020 4:13:59 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: CodeToad

I say next time, Trump pulls the Gang of 8 into a nice comfortable skif, where there are no open line phones and cellphones are not permitted.

Trump has ordered pizza, and proceeds to tell them what he’s going to do. Then tells them the Marines guarding the door won’t let anyone leave until he orders it, and that they should be out in 6 to 8 hours, and if not he’ll have coffee and donuts sent over, have a nice night.


9 posted on 01/06/2020 4:24:00 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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“... if Trump told congress they would have warned Iran.”

Like Obama did in 2015 when Israel was going to do it?

https://theunionjournal.com/israel-wanted-to-kill-al-quds-leader-soleimani-but-obama-tipped-off-iran/


10 posted on 01/06/2020 4:30:32 PM PST by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
It seems that not everyone has watched Amir Tsarfati's latest video, which explains why an "imminent threat" obliged Trump to act without the approval of Congress.

There was a massive terror wave being planned against Israeli and American diplomats and other targets in the Middle East. That is why all those terrorist leaders were all together in that one spot, going to talk about it all in Baghdad. Israeli moles provided the intelligence.

Check out from slightly before the 20-minute mark if you don't have time to listen to the whole thing and want to know Trump's motive for moving so fast and so unexpectedly.

Video.

11 posted on 01/06/2020 4:41:12 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Hey leftards, you babies can impeach President Trump again

At this point, what difference does it make? Your terrorist friend is still in a million pieces either way and President Trump will still be your President...

I have been posting this meme since the terrorist, the Salami was killed.

After my second cup of coffee this morning, I had just about come to what was posted below:

:^) The reason our enemies and trade rivals are emboldened IS the impeachment. All Demagogic Party trash belongs at the end of a rope.

These terrorist Iranian top dogs figured, wrongly, that they could attack our embassy and worse without any reaction from an impeached president.

They planned to put President Trump into a Jimmy Carter mode after they seized our embassy in Iraq.

Trump's response, panicked them and they descended into Iraq to plan more problems for our president and Iraq. That killed their #1 and #2 terrorist planners.

Who is up next to become sliced/diced and cooked dog food in Iraq?

12 posted on 01/06/2020 4:48:51 PM PST by Grampa Dave (If Nanzi peeee-losi, Schiffless, Mad Maxine and Chuckie were in charge, they would be droning us.)
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We have to stop and think how low America has sunk——there is practically nothing about which we could all stand up together and embrace and say “We as Americans are all united on this.”

American flag? “Disturbing to immigrants in class so had to be taken down at school.”(True news story) ,”Represents white supremacy.” “only if displayed beneath United Nations flag.” “Colin K will not enter if it is flying.”

Probably not even a Senate measure to salute the girl who sold the most Girl Scout cookies.

Senate demands answers: Is she Pro-Choice? Is she a lesbian”?
Did her mother bribe sales force of corporation to sell under her name? And “Cross dressing boy admits posing as girl scout.”


13 posted on 01/06/2020 4:51:37 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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If it goes much further, trying and killing Adam Schiff wouldn’t need Congressional approval either.

Treason is a capital offense.

Something that Pelosi, Nadler, John Kerry and Schumer need to remember.


14 posted on 01/06/2020 4:53:58 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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What I’ve been tweeting at the jerks


15 posted on 01/06/2020 5:38:54 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Please stop calling enemy soldiers “terrorists”.

“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names” - Confucius


16 posted on 01/06/2020 5:41:37 PM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: frank ballenger

Very perceptive comment. Unfortunately I agree with you.

But sooner or later (we’re talking many years) enough Leftists face defeat.

Sadly we’ve only recently reached the stage where Democrats and Hollywood and the Press get criticized. They don’t like it because they have long considered themselves sacred cows.

Trump is moving the needle. Look at who keeps their mouths shut. George Will, the Bushes, the Obamas (mostly). Even Hillary Clinton is much subdued, accept an honorary position at a North Ireland college or something.

Time is on our side. That’s the best hope we have as long as Trump stays in power till 2025.


17 posted on 01/06/2020 5:42:24 PM PST by poconopundit (Joe Biden has long been the Senate's court jester. He's 24/7 malarkey and more corrupt than Hunter.)
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Everyone but the demwits know this.


18 posted on 01/06/2020 5:51:58 PM PST by bgill
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“ Attacking an embassy is far more of a violation of international law than killing a terror leader in a war zone.”

This needs reminding.


19 posted on 01/06/2020 5:57:55 PM PST by HollyB
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I turn 60 next week and didn’t think I would ever see the US this ass-backward where the Dems want to tie our hands so we can’t do what is right and at the same time allow those who will harm us free passage.

Granting of extra-constitutional priveledge to non-citizens snd taking away the rights of Americans.


20 posted on 01/06/2020 6:04:22 PM PST by shotgun
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