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Gun ‘sanctuaries’ compared to slavery, ‘dangerous,’ ‘ugly,’ ‘disturbing’
Washington Examiner ^ | January 05, 2020 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 01/05/2020 9:38:58 PM PST by Perseverando

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To: Perseverando

So - FReedom to protect oneself and your loved ones is akin to slavery now...say the would-be slave-owners.


21 posted on 01/06/2020 4:35:48 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: a fool in paradise
A sad irony is that the ‘sanctuary’ movement conjures the disturbing nullification movements of the past three centuries in Virginia. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison argued that the states have the right to ignore federal laws they consider unconstitutional.

How is that any different from the immigration "sanctuary cities"?

Denying that nullification is an option is a step down the road to tyranny.

22 posted on 01/06/2020 4:52:09 AM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Perseverando

Peter Galuszka has never been anything more than a democrat activist with a byline.


23 posted on 01/06/2020 5:37:31 AM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Perseverando
Gun ‘sanctuaries’ compared to slavery. . .

Au contraire. Those sanctuaries are the patriots' Underground Railroad.

24 posted on 01/06/2020 5:38:42 AM PST by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: Perseverando

People were enslaved because they were unequal, deficient, weak.

Having guns aids equality, decreases weakness. Guns are a defense against those who use the tyrannical law as a weapon be they Iranian or American


25 posted on 01/06/2020 5:46:11 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: bert

I think there is still enough old men, military trained around that would disagree with the idea of removing guns from the public. If the libs would bide their time for 30 yrs there would be enough soy boys to accept the premise of no guns.


26 posted on 01/06/2020 6:08:34 AM PST by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: Perseverando

Sorry hypocrites. When you applauded the “Sanctuary city” movement on illegal aliens, you lost all moral credibility to posture now. You don’t get to selectively pick and choose which laws you will enforce.


27 posted on 01/06/2020 6:14:46 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: jonrick46
When gangs ran illegal alcohol during Prohibition, the automatic Tommy Guns came out. Guns go hand in glove with illegal activity.

And our solution to illegal trafficking of alcohol was to legalize it. I think this was the right solution regarding that drug - and would be the right solution today at least as regards the #1-by-a-mile most used illegal drug: marijuana. Do you agree?

28 posted on 01/06/2020 7:31:06 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Amberdawn

Calling whites the R word is like calling blacks the N word.


29 posted on 01/06/2020 7:56:45 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Perseverando

Liberals love sanctuary cities.


30 posted on 01/06/2020 9:28:43 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: NobleFree

Marijuana for young people may affect brain development. People are voting to keep pot shops out of their community. In our community, they wanted to put a pot shop right across from the high school. Voters in our community voted against the pot shops by 7 percentage points. Some communities ban alcohol sales. In our community, alcohol is banned in certain parks.

Because legalization took a large segment of pot sales away from Mexico, growers in Mexico and Columbia turned to opium cultivation. Most of US heroin now comes from Mexico and Columbia. This makes it easier to get heroin in the country. We have a flood of heroin in our country and a huge population of homeless addicts under its grip.

My observations point to the consequences of the drugs. We need to deal with the consequences whether they are legal or not.


31 posted on 01/06/2020 7:22:43 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: jonrick46
When gangs ran illegal alcohol during Prohibition, the automatic Tommy Guns came out. Guns go hand in glove with illegal activity.

And our solution to illegal trafficking of alcohol was to legalize it. I think this was the right solution regarding that drug - and would be the right solution today at least as regards the #1-by-a-mile most used illegal drug: marijuana. Do you agree?

Marijuana for young people may affect brain development.

Marijuana criminalization has failed to keep that drug away from young people; they have been reporting since well before any state had legalized that they could get marijuana almost as easily as cigarettes or beer, although the latter two are much more widespread among adults. The available evidence indicates that the best way of keeping a drug away from young people is to legalize it for adults - which gives its sellers an economic incentive to confine their sales to adults, namely the risk of losing their legal adult market.

People are voting to keep pot shops out of their community. In our community, they wanted to put a pot shop right across from the high school. Voters in our community voted against the pot shops by 7 percentage points. Some communities ban alcohol sales. In our community, alcohol is banned in certain parks.

Communities should be able to make their own decisions on alcohol or marijuana, free of federal interference (for which there is no Constitutional authorization).

Because legalization took a large segment of pot sales away from Mexico, growers in Mexico and Columbia turned to opium cultivation. Most of US heroin now comes from Mexico and Columbia. This makes it easier to get heroin in the country. We have a flood of heroin in our country and a huge population of homeless addicts under its grip.

According to the federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), heroin use has been flat since 2012 - before any state legalized marijuana: https://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/cbhsq-reports/NSDUHNationalFindingsReport2018/NSDUHNationalFindingsReport2018.htm#illicit4

My observations point to the consequences of the drugs. We need to deal with the consequences whether they are legal or not.

Your first post was explicitly about illegality, as is your most recent point about marijuana legalization's alleged effect on heroin use. The consequences that we need to deal with whether they are legal or not, are by definition not arguments against legalization (not that you said they were).

32 posted on 01/07/2020 7:20:27 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: a fool in paradise
Is is ok to extend his argument to say that cities and states that offer dope sanctuaries and illegal immigrant sanctuaries are akin to those that continued slavery in rejection of Federal law?

I don't think it's an extension at all...it's already there.

33 posted on 01/09/2020 4:30:46 AM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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