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War and Corruption Made Ukraine a Terrorist Twilight Zone
Daily Beast ^ | December 29, 2019 | Anna Nemtsova

Posted on 12/29/2019 3:52:16 AM PST by NorseViking

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1 posted on 12/29/2019 3:52:16 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

The guy is a former Georgian military himself and trained in Pankisi by USMC in earlier 2000s.
A bunch of former Georgian military were brought to Ukraine by the Obama’s Ambassador along with a former Georgian President Saakashvili whom they forced upon the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainians had to put Saakashvili as one of the regional governors.
It is rumored that the Georgian military is behind the ‘ghost snipers’ who shot and killed a hundred protestors.
Elected president was falsely accused in that killing and it was used as a justification for a coup against him and a regime change.
I think ISIS connection makes it even more creepy now.


2 posted on 12/29/2019 4:00:22 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

To be honest about this guy...just in 2014, he was reported ‘dead’ on five occasions, and none of the occasions were true.

In 2015, there were three reports of him dead. None were true. TASS even reported him captured by US special forces toward the end of the year....that was also not true.

In 2016, there are a minimum of three reports of him dead. None of them were true. Toward the end of 2016, President Obama reported him dead. That was not true.

In 2018, the Turks did say that they had captured his wife and was charging her up with crimes.

The odds of the Ukrainians actually having the guy? If it were him, he’d have a ton of intelligence to be gained, and the US ought to be working up a deal to get their hands on the guy.


3 posted on 12/29/2019 4:09:09 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: GOPJ; Grampa Dave; poconopundit

Joy to the world......a-n-o-t-h-e-r feather in Hunter’s cap.....alleluia.

He was taking millions under the table from Muslim terrorist trash.


4 posted on 12/29/2019 4:10:55 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: pepsionice

See post #2. He is Obama’s guy. Hillary’s foot soldier doing regime change. Not only in Africa and Arabia. The same guys doing the same stuff in Europe proper.


5 posted on 12/29/2019 4:15:28 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Now that we know that the ‘official’ story on Syria was a BIG FAT LIE and instead OUR SIDE (under Obama/Hillary/McCain) were directly arming the terrorists there...it gets more and more difficult to believe this Ukraine crap isn’t just another flat-out lie by the Deep State.

I don’t buy the crap regarding Ukraine, not one bit.


6 posted on 12/29/2019 4:17:57 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: pepsionice
". . . the US ought to be working up a deal to get their hands on the guy."

Note - The guy is a former Georgian military himself and trained in Pankisi by USMC in earlier 2000s.

What the US should do is tear down the system that sends USMC trainers to countries full of terrorist scum who once trained are chomping at the bit to murder Christians and their "fellow" Muzlames that are members of a different sect.

As it works now, the last thing anyone in the system wants is the US getting "their hands on the guy". They'd prefer to have him back in the field where they want him killing people and creating anarchy. Failing that, they want him dead.

7 posted on 12/29/2019 4:19:40 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: BobL
Wherever John McCain showed up trouble followed.


8 posted on 12/29/2019 4:23:30 AM PST by McGruff (Does no one is above the law apply to Democrats?)
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To: NorseViking

Obama-Biden-Pelosi: Never let a corrupt country go to waste.


9 posted on 12/29/2019 4:23:32 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Heaven has a wall and gates. Hell has open borders.)
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To: McGruff

The same actors as we see in all three places. And I don’t mean McCain. Islamists are at work in Ukraine as well.


10 posted on 12/29/2019 4:25:42 AM PST by NorseViking
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"See post #2. He is Obama’s guy.

Sure, somehow I just knew the obummer would have his finger in there somewhere..

11 posted on 12/29/2019 4:27:05 AM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! if you can keep it....)
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To: BobL

Yep, it is all connected.


12 posted on 12/29/2019 4:48:30 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: McGruff

Seeing his pic makes me boil. What a POS McCain was. History will not be kind to this globalist.


13 posted on 12/29/2019 6:22:08 AM PST by Levy78
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To: NorseViking

Thanks for posting.


14 posted on 12/29/2019 8:29:50 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: NorseViking
It is rumored that the Georgian military is behind the ‘ghost snipers’ who shot and killed a hundred protestors.

Doubt it. More likely it was Putin's and Yanukovych's snipers.

And Saakashvili wasn't on the side of the terrorists. He's actually on the opposite side of terrorists from the Pankisi Gorge on Georgia.

There are more than two sides to Ukrainian and Georgian politics. Putin's Russia, Soros' EU, Chechen terrorists from the Pankasi Gorge, internal coruptocrats, US coruptocrats, and people who are for real independence in Ukraine and Georgia to name six.

This article blurs those distinctions using Putin misinformation.

15 posted on 12/29/2019 9:28:06 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: NorseViking

Good! (I hope it’s true this time)


16 posted on 12/29/2019 9:53:10 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: FreeReign

“” “” Doubt it. More likely it was Putin’s and Yanukovych’s snipers.

And Saakashvili wasn’t on the side of the terrorists. He’s actually on the opposite side of terrorists from the Pankisi Gorge on Georgia.”” “”

That only sounds legit if you believe everything the media told on the subject at the time. The same media saying Trump is a Putin’s puppet.

If Yanukovich wanted to crush the revolt he could simply run tanks over the square.
There are transcripts of the coup leaders talking to the US Embassy officials and asking for US invervention before the shooting. US diplomats said ‘bigger events’ needed and there is nothing to talk about because ‘there is not even a hundred dead so far’.

Surprisingly, they had a hundred shot the very next day and that piece of work McCain running around demanding to hand Yanukovich.

There were reports on Euro media several months ago that a Chechen-Georgian man turned himself in Minsk claiming he was involved in a shooting and now organizers are hunting him and threatening his family.

CNN coincidentally was there at the moment of shooting and filmed armed soldiers in the streets who tried to storm the hotel and immediately blamed them for the shooting.

It is now proven beyond doubt that the shots could not be fired by these soldiers but the fire was coming from the hotel itself. The same hotel CNN was filming the killing from.

And there was a string of killings of Chechen activists in Ukraine, those who supported the coup immediately after.

You can even find these stories on FR.

Now you see a Chechen ISIS minister was hiding in Ukraine too.

Isn’t it fishy?

As for Saakashvili and USMC they very well might have fought terrorists in Pankisi but for some weird reason ‘anti-terrorists’ they trained there ended up fighting Russian forces in Chechnya. It took a Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008 to finally clean the Chechens and Georgian military from Pankisi and then they reappeared in Syria in managerial roles for ISIS.

And as Saakashvili was chased away from Georgia and Brennan forced him on Ukraine the very same terrorists are now in Ukraine.

And by the way a lot is told about Russian support of break-away Georgian republics in the north.

Nobody says that Turkey de-facto annexed the whole South of Georgia and the process started after Saakashvili became president.

Now they have free travel with Turkey and the Turks own everything in Batumi. Every other person is Turkish, all businesses are Turkish and the Georgians are doing menial jobs for them. It doesn’t even look like a Christian city anymore. There are more mosques than Churches.

That is how great an anti-terrorist this Saakashvili is.


17 posted on 12/29/2019 10:13:19 AM PST by NorseViking
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That only sounds legit if you believe everything the media told on the subject at the time.

Utter nonsense.

I gave you the full explanation of the many competing interests in Georgia and Ukraine, independent of Big Media, Russian Media and other interests.

You ignored it.

And there was a string of killings of Chechen activists in Ukraine, those who supported the coup immediately after. You can even find these stories on FR.

I've been sifting through articles here on FR about Ukraine and Georgia for over two decades. Perhaps you should go back before the time you registered here just two short years ago, and gather additional information.

If Yanukovich wanted to crush the revolt he could simply run tanks over the square.

I'm going to stop right there. Your conclusion is illogical. You ignore the ramifications of such a maneuver. You are pushing Putin propaganda. I'm not going to spend the rest of my Sunday addressing the rest of your misunderstandings of the complicated multifaceted political interests that define Ukraine and Georgia over the last two decades.

18 posted on 12/29/2019 11:37:03 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I agree about competing interests but that you said that Yanukovich did the shooting makes about as much sense as the idea that Trump is a Putin’s puppet.
You want to believe it this way and you do.
The connection between Chechens, Georgia, Ukrainian coup and ISIS is much more factual but you are ignoring the facts saying ‘propaganda’.
The same is said about Biden-Ukraine by the media. They call it conspiracy theory ignoring factual connections.
At the very same time they are impeaching Trump based on an impression of someone who listened to his phone call.
Same thing.

Is McCain in Libya, Syria and Ukraine not a fact?
Is ISIS leadership US-trained in Georgia under Saakashvili not a fact?
Is US-trained Georgian ISIS in Ukraine not a fact?
Isn’t Saakashvili in Ukraine not a fact?

What the hack Saakashvili and company did there at all?

There is a wiretap available online of a call between Catherine Ashton and Estonian FM Paet from 2014 saying the snipers were hired by the opposition.

Forensic investigation of the shooting is available as well.

What is the opposite evidence making you discard the false flag as a Russian propaganda?


19 posted on 12/29/2019 12:02:16 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: McGruff

“Trouble” aka anarchy has been the strategy since 9/11. More conflict begets a pliable environment for tptb. Also good for graft.


20 posted on 12/29/2019 2:44:32 PM PST by reardensteel
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