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1 posted on 12/12/2019 6:52:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Even if everything the Democrats said were true (which they are not, Dems are liars), no crime would have been committed. It is fully within the president’s authority to demand that corruption be investigated before any foreign aid is given. It matters nothing that Hunter Biden is Joe Biden’s son.


2 posted on 12/12/2019 6:58:53 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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While the Democrat hit squad sorrowfully posed together calling this impeachment a tragic day in history Trump said “It’s Tuesday”. Hell to the yeah.


3 posted on 12/12/2019 7:00:04 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (NRT, NewRome Tacitus, just don't call me late to dinner.)
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The only down side here is that there are a bunch of acquaintances of mine who simply can’t be swayed by the facts and logic deployed here. Apparently, the same thing can be said about the “Mainstream Media.” And incredibly, San Fran Nan is accusing the Media of enabling the President—even as hack pseudo-journalist Chris Wallace of the allegedly in-the-tank-for-Trump Fox News lambasts the President for attacking the Media.


4 posted on 12/12/2019 7:01:42 PM PST by Lysandru
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Obama would have been impeached hundreds of times.


5 posted on 12/12/2019 7:25:02 PM PST by FreedBird
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He [Zelensky] needs American aid so he is lying to stay on the good side of the president.

He needed U.S. a LOT more when Obama was president, cozying up to Putin, cancelling defensive missiles in Poland and Ukraine, and sending blankets, not arms, to Ukraine. So, logically, Ukraine would have been trying to curry favor more with Obama rather than Trump who has delivered real armaments to Ukraine.

6 posted on 12/12/2019 7:26:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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and Nadler denied the Minority Hearing

this is so unreal


7 posted on 12/12/2019 7:45:30 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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there can’t be a shake down if the person being shook down has no idea its happening. Unless Zelensky is lying, the entire case against Trump just disappears.



9 posted on 12/13/2019 10:36:48 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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there can’t be a shake down if the person being shook down has no idea its happening. Unless Zelensky is lying, the entire case against Trump just disappears.


That is an insurmountable hurdle if reality had any part in this.

As an aside, if Zelensky is lying, then denying the aid would be justified.


10 posted on 12/13/2019 10:38:59 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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