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Reporting Live from Pearl Harbor: THOUSANDS GATHER IN THE PREDAWN DARKNESS FOR 78TH ANNIVERSARY OBSERVANCES
December 7, 2019 | Self

Posted on 12/07/2019 9:06:54 AM PST by j.havenfarm

0700 HST: Several thousands gathered before dawn this morning at the Pearl Harbor visitors center to attend this morning’s 78th anniversary of the “Day that will live in infamy.” Security is tight in light of the shootings here and at Pensacola this week. Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt will represent the President and deliver the key note speech in ceremonies slated to begin at 750, the hour of the attack. We’re privileged to be attending with Arizona survivor Lou Conter. The picture below shows the Arizona Memorial and the USS Missouri at dawn. I’m summoned to go visit with me Conter. I’ll post a link to my sons documentary about him in a bit, and more later

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1 posted on 12/07/2019 9:06:54 AM PST by j.havenfarm
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This is the link to my son’s Eagle Scout Project documentary about USS Arizona survivor Lou Conter, one of the guests of honor this am.
https://youtu.be/T_L0kWTqPiA


2 posted on 12/07/2019 9:10:42 AM PST by j.havenfarm ( Beginning my 20th year on FR! 2,500+ replies and still not shutting up!)
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I just watched a tv show on Pearl Harbor. It was over a few minutes ago.

It was reported on that show that the message to warn everyone arrived eight hours late.

Is that at all true?

3 posted on 12/07/2019 9:11:03 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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https://www.army.mil/article/180285/intelligence_japanese_attack_on_pearl_harbor

In the early morning of Dec. 7, 1941, SIS immediately recognized the importance of the Fourteen Part Message, and after informing the President, the Chief of Staff of the Army alerted the commanders of both the Hawaiian and Philippine departments that the potential for a Japanese attack was high, although the target was still unknown. Given the sensitivity of the message, it had to be sent by telegraph, a process hampered by Sunday office closures. The message reached Honolulu at 7:33 a.m. Hawaii-time and was dispatched by bicycle messenger to Fort Shafter. Half way to his destination, the messenger sought cover in a roadside ditch when the Japanese began its aerial bombardment. He did not reach Fort Shafter until 11:45 a.m. and, by the time the message was decoded and delivered to the Adjutant General’s Office, the time was 2:58 p.m. and the attack was over. Eighteen U.S. ships and 188 aircraft were damaged or lost; human casualties included 2,335 service members and 68 civilians with another 1,178 wounded. Additional losses were suffered during simultaneous attacks on Thailand, Malaya, Singapore, Guam, Hong Kong, Wake and the Philippine Islands.


4 posted on 12/07/2019 9:16:51 AM PST by abb
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Thanks for posting. R.I.P. Thanks to all who have served, all who are serving and all who will serve in the future and their families. America’s greatest BUMP!

(how long before that memorial offends someone and has to be torn down?)


5 posted on 12/07/2019 9:20:52 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: a little elbow grease

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/wwii/p3.asp

Japanese Note to the United States United States December 7, 1941
(Generally referred to as the “Fourteen Part Message.”)


6 posted on 12/07/2019 9:21:24 AM PST by abb
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To: a little elbow grease
It was reported on that show that the message to warn everyone arrived eight hours late.

Like 9/11 there were lots of dots but none connected.

7 posted on 12/07/2019 9:23:40 AM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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Thanks for the great post. I brought my wife there about two years ago and she was very impressed with the new visitors center and the Arizona memorial. I was there 40 years ago and it is certainly upgraded since then. Great job by your son.
God bless!


8 posted on 12/07/2019 9:26:22 AM PST by Shark24
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bttt


9 posted on 12/07/2019 9:29:46 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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RIP to all the Sailors, Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and civilians who were KIA that day. You were avenged. And we will not forget your sacrifice.


10 posted on 12/07/2019 9:39:45 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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Odd that in a "touchy-feely" time such as we are in now, I don't think Japan has ever apologized for their slimy, cowardly sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.

Maybe we need some reparations or some kinda chit like that.

11 posted on 12/07/2019 9:46:00 AM PST by skimbell
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There’s a large delegation from Japan here this morning


12 posted on 12/07/2019 9:49:43 AM PST by j.havenfarm ( Beginning my 20th year on FR! 2,500+ replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: a little elbow grease
I just watched a tv show on Pearl Harbor. It was over a few minutes ago.

Yea, I just watched it too......Very eye opening. And did you happen to notice in the very end where they put up a quote by Vice President Joe Biden where he stated that the blame put on Commander H. Kimmel was basically a travesty of military justice.

Kimmel's family has been trying to have his rank restored posthumously but all the presidents since the attack have turned a blind eye. And that includes Clinton and Obama which is strange why the documentary would put that quotation at the very end.

13 posted on 12/07/2019 9:57:39 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Never take a centipede shopping for shoes)
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Any official apology?


14 posted on 12/07/2019 10:03:47 AM PST by skimbell
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No but a pretty touching prayer of reconciliation delivered by a Japanese clergyman with English translation. There’s no anger in the air here today


15 posted on 12/07/2019 10:16:08 AM PST by j.havenfarm ( Beginning my 20th year on FR! 2,500+ replies and still not shutting up!)
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Sadly, we are fast approaching the first Pearl Harbor anniversary without a PH survivor among us.


16 posted on 12/07/2019 10:23:01 AM PST by lodi90
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anti-Japanese racists./s


17 posted on 12/07/2019 10:26:40 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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human casualties included 2,335 service members and 68 civilians with another 1,178 wounded.

Some years back there was a "Bad Americans" type of article out of Seattle. They reported on the unveiling ceremony of a monument dedicated to a young Japanese girl who died in the Hiroshima bombing.

Thank God for the Internet. I looked up the Pearl Harbor civilian casualty list and got the name of a Hawaiian girl around the same age. I wrote the reporter and asked when they were going to puy up a memorial to her as well. The reporter replied that she didn't know there were any civilian casualties in that attack.

I felt like banging my head (and hers) against the wall.

18 posted on 12/07/2019 10:26:45 AM PST by Oatka
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Bang her head against the wall. It sometimes works with appliances that are on the fritz. It might work with her brains. And if not, it’s a good idea anyway. Stupidity must have consequences.


19 posted on 12/07/2019 10:38:13 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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Today the Japanese pilots would have been guest students and would have taken off from Hickam to start the attack.


20 posted on 12/07/2019 10:39:23 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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