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Pa. DEP and major oil companies agree: Trump administration shouldn't roll back methane rules
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | December 2, 2019 | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Posted on 12/03/2019 7:49:23 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Several groups that often are at odds over environmental rules are on the same side when it comes to easing methane regulations at oil and gas sites.

The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection joined major oil and gas companies, environmental groups and lawmakers from both parties last week in urging the Trump administration not to go through with its proposal to eliminate methane control requirements from well sites and pipelines across the country.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is proposing to roll back rules adopted in 2016 that require companies to identify and stop methane leaks from new and modified oil and gas production, pipeline and storage equipment.

The agency said existing controls on a separate class of chemicals that is also present in oil and gas — called volatile organic compounds, or VOCs — make direct regulation of methane redundant and unnecessary.

The agency is also proposing an alternate rule to exempt the oil and gas storage and transmission sector from both the methane and volatile organic compound regulations.

But major companies that would see restrictions lifted on their operations if EPA finalizes the rule — including Royal Dutch Shell, ExxonMobil, Total, Equinor and Canonsburg-based Equitrans Midstream — wrote that they want national rules directly targeting methane.

Several of the companies said that easing methane regulations will erode public confidence in natural gas as a cleaner fossil fuel at a time when addressing climate change is an international priority.

Comments on the proposals were due last week.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


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1 posted on 12/03/2019 7:49:23 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Big oil joining with the EPA? big oil doesn’t want any competition..


2 posted on 12/03/2019 7:50:58 AM PST by Ikeon (Oops.. did I say that?)
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3 posted on 12/03/2019 7:51:01 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Ikeon

Correct. Gotta use the regulations to crush smaller companies.


4 posted on 12/03/2019 7:51:27 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Seems like it.


5 posted on 12/03/2019 7:58:23 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I would bet money the great majority of independent producers will be onboard with the Trump administration’s less-regulation approach, while the majors will support the increased regulations of the Obummer administration.


6 posted on 12/03/2019 7:58:33 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Ikeon

Man I’m not the quickest mind in the room and that’s what I immediately thought.

OK. Not immediately but after like a minute to a minute and a half


7 posted on 12/03/2019 7:59:54 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Ikeon

Methane burn offs at the well can generate electricity to run your Tesla.

From MIT

http://news.mit.edu/2017/new-way-harness-wasted-methane-1017


8 posted on 12/03/2019 8:04:54 AM PST by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. IOr keep people from / PC ing in ver and alway)
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To: Ikeon

Likely they spent a lot of money complying with the Obama-era regs, and now can’t stand to walk away from the ROI.


9 posted on 12/03/2019 8:07:44 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Oh? Will this forbid them from using existing equipment already in place to keep reducing methane and VOC emissions?

Will the be required to stop recovering VOCs and methane?

Will this force them to release them into the air, just like in the good old days?

Can’t they crush the competition by simply telling the truth, that they aren’t polluting like those upstart whippersnappers are doing?


10 posted on 12/03/2019 8:49:08 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Ikeon
Right. These regulations make it economically unfeasible for smaller independent drillers to operate. Big oil colludes with big government to limit the competition.
11 posted on 12/03/2019 9:05:30 AM PST by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I discharge methane every day. Women don’t.


12 posted on 12/03/2019 9:56:25 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Ikeon
Big oil joining with the EPA? big oil doesn’t want any competition..

Got it in one.

The big boys are in favor of government regulations because it keeps the little guys, who may someday become big guys, out of the field.

The big guys can afford to hire lawyers, lobbyists and paper pushers to deal with regulations. The small guys, who are working on a shoestring budget, can not.

13 posted on 12/03/2019 10:03:40 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And that’s how it is in every big industry, not just oil. Well said.


14 posted on 12/03/2019 10:04:50 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: null and void

In a word, yes. They expect their ROI for investing in all of that stuff should be a competitive advantage.

Just tellin’ yinz how the MBA’s look at these things.


15 posted on 12/03/2019 10:56:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

More that one company has been driven out of business by listening to MBAs.


16 posted on 12/03/2019 11:00:01 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Eleutheria5
My township gained a great deal of business because the town decided to keep Big Business out by enacting a bunch of regulations. These regulations hit the local sole proprietorships hard so they moved outside of the town limits.

Ironically the only businesses left are the chains that could afford to comply.

We keep a close eye on the township board to make sure they don't get any bright ideas.

17 posted on 12/03/2019 11:09:42 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

This is why Gates, Zuckerberg, Soros, et al., are all mega-leftards. Trump is another matter. Building high-end real estate and country clubs is itself a big business. There are no mom and pop skyscrapers in Manhattan. Mara Lago is unique, and just getting together enough contiguous land for a golf course takes anyone with a shoestring budget out of the running. So the only competition is other big-time developers trying to buy the choice parcels. Regulation is a hindrance, not a help, to a large development, no matter how high your budget is. It’s a license to bureaucratic a$$holes to hint subtly that they want to be paid off.


18 posted on 12/03/2019 11:31:51 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5
You are correct. I have tried to explain to people who think the "mega-rich" are on our side that they are not. They want to stay king of the hill and will do what they have to including use the power of the government to oppress their competitors.

When Buffet goes and cries about how his secretary pays more in taxes then he does and that is wrong those tear are pure crocodile. He pays the taxes he does because he lobbied and loopholed and paid people to make sure it happens that way. He can put on a show because he knows that this will not change. He won't get hit with a higher bill. The people who work for him will. That will keep them from being able to go out and start up a company that might someday topple his empire.

19 posted on 12/03/2019 4:47:03 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Even the claim about the secretary is false. She pays a higher rate, because she’s earning wages, but he pays more taxes, albeit at a lower rate because they’re capital gains and not wages. The taxes she pays gives her less disposable income than she would otherwise have, but come to so little money it’s hardly worth the Treasury Department’s notice. But he’s already got accumulated wealth, so he doesn’t need any income at all for the foreseeable future. He just likes making money, and he knows he’ll always be on top because of the power that that money can buy, and his taxes come to a huge percentage of the federal take, even though he himself hardly notices it. So his secretary and he are not even comparable. Like apples and bowling balls.


20 posted on 12/03/2019 5:06:03 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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