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Is John Roberts Up To a Senate Impeachment Trial?
The American Spectator ^ | November 26, 2019 | DAVID CATRON

Posted on 11/27/2019 12:21:46 PM PST by xzins

The Democrats have manifestly failed to build the national consensus necessary to remove a sitting president from office. The “impeachment inquiry” decreed by Nancy Pelosi in late September, combined with Adam Schiff’s inequitable conduct of the subsequent public hearings, have produced the reverse of their intended result. Several reliable voter surveys show that they weakened support for impeachment among Independent voters, particularly those in crucial swing states, while hardening support for the president among Republicans.

When the Democrats pass their impeachment resolution, the sordid spectacle will move to the Senate, where Chief Justice John Roberts must preside over a trial that will determine if the president has actually committed an offense that would justify his removal. This should worry the president and his supporters. Historically, the role of the chief justice in these proceedings has been somewhat symbolic. Yet it will be necessary for him to rule on a number of important motions. The weak Democratic case against President Trump, combined with the Democrats’ penchant for manipulating procedural rules, all but guarantees that they will inundate Roberts with a tsunami of parliamentary maneuvers that he may be ill-equipped to manage.

.... A similar impulse is behind much of the animosity that our political class feels for Donald Trump, and Roberts would seem to share that prejudice. He raised eyebrows a year ago by publicly rebuking Trump for referring to U.S. District Judge Jon S. Tigar as an “Obama judge”:

We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: impeachment; roberts; senate; trump
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1 posted on 11/27/2019 12:21:46 PM PST by xzins
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***This concern for appearances that plays such an important part in Roberts’ thinking is one of the primary issues, along with an oddly inconsistent record as chief justice, that should worry anyone who cares about President Trump’s ability to receive a fair impeachment trial in the Senate. The pressure that will be applied to Roberts pursuant to the Senate trial will dwarf anything he has experienced during his tenure on the court. And the friction that already exists between Trump and Roberts concerning the judiciary will affect the latter’s judgment whether he knows it or not. Indeed, the Washington Times reports that John Cardillo of Newsmax TV has called for Roberts to recuse himself from President Trump’s Senate trial:***


2 posted on 11/27/2019 12:22:46 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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Justice Roberts should recuse himself on the grounds that he does not understand the US Constitution.


3 posted on 11/27/2019 12:26:02 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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It’s a tax.


4 posted on 11/27/2019 12:27:59 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: xzins

Can John Roberts be trusted?

NO.


5 posted on 11/27/2019 12:30:45 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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6 posted on 11/27/2019 12:31:40 PM PST by bitt (You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook. Harry Truman)
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I’m not worried.

The Senate majority will have total control over procedures and the CJ will have only a ceremonial role in adjudicating THOSE rules.

The Senate has unfettered power to define its own rules and procedures. There is no power on earth that can compel otherwise.

Other than that he just gets to sit there in a fancy robe and look judicious.


7 posted on 11/27/2019 12:32:51 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Can John Roberts be trusted?

NO.


Many times NO NO NO


8 posted on 11/27/2019 12:39:41 PM PST by ptsal
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To: xzins

he’s a referee....no power in the decision.


9 posted on 11/27/2019 12:48:20 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: \/\/ayne

Roberts is, has always been a deep state mole.


10 posted on 11/27/2019 12:56:50 PM PST by A strike ( Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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What a shameless BS Artist we have as Chief Justice. Claptrap about no Obama or Bush, et al judges. Even Roberts himself is a linguini spined rubber stamp for the Rats.


11 posted on 11/27/2019 1:01:30 PM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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If the FISA thing breaks as predicted with the Horowitz Report, Roberts automatically becomes a fact witness, since he heads up the FISA court. He cannot Be both a witness and a judge in the proceedings. Yet the Chief Justice must preside according to the Constitution. He will be forced to give up being CHief Justice and a new one must be named. This could get, Constitutionally, very interesting.


12 posted on 11/27/2019 1:08:22 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Congress is not made up of leaders however they are representatives of their voters.)
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“Harvey Dent ... can we trust him?”

Seriously: Roberts has a huge conflict. He oversaw the FISA judges. He needs to recuse and have someone else assess where the FISA courts were dirty.


13 posted on 11/27/2019 1:10:15 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Seriously: Roberts has a huge conflict. He oversaw the FISA judges. He needs to recuse and have someone else assess where the FISA courts were dirty.

That's right !

14 posted on 11/27/2019 1:12:26 PM PST by timestax
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Th pirate Roberts will do as his masters order him to do. His lack of integrity will be in full display should this treasonous farce go to the Ertle Turtle Senate.


15 posted on 11/27/2019 1:12:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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No power on earth? So the blackmail files the demon rats wave at select senators and the SCOTUS puppet are not of this earth?


16 posted on 11/27/2019 1:15:19 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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Wouldn’t he only need to recuse if he was somehow involved in the particular case? Not just because he over sees the entire FISA court?


17 posted on 11/27/2019 1:16:24 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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No power on earth can compel the Senate to do anything.


18 posted on 11/27/2019 1:29:17 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The FISA courts behaviour would surely come under heavy scrutiny in these proceedings, so there could be a conflict. I do not know how closely the FISA peeps apprise the SC as to their goings on.

I doubt he oversees and approves every action of the FISA judges.

But who's to say they wouldn't reprise the blackmail. "that's a nice daughter you've got there....it'd be a shame if it was learned you broke immigration / adoption laws....

Destroying the character of an R justice is not below dems common decency.

19 posted on 11/27/2019 1:33:01 PM PST by chiller (As Davey Crockett once said: Be sure you're right. Then go ahead. I'm goin' ahead.)
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***The weak Democratic case against President Trump, combined with the Democrats’ penchant for manipulating procedural rules, all but guarantees that they will inundate Roberts with a tsunami of parliamentary maneuvers that he may be ill-equipped to manage***

With all due respect, I suspect that this is a tempest in a teapot. I am not sure who sets the trial rules - McConnell or Roberts - but I think McConnell sets procedural rules via floor vote at the beginning. Of course the 'rats will try to set up rules and blocks - I think that is up to McConnell to handle from the outset; I believe that he is up to the task.

{{I don't think that the Chief Justice can set up Senate rules; like the House, the Senate can make its own rules. The Chief Justice then is governed by that. That is my understanding.}}

20 posted on 11/27/2019 1:38:59 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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