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South Carolina Legal Tender Act Would Treat Gold and Silver as Money
Tenth Amendment Center ^ | November 22, 2019 | Mike Maharrey

Posted on 11/26/2019 6:40:43 PM PST by Perseverando

COLUMBIA, S.C. (Nov. 22, 2019) – A bill prefiled in the South Carolina House would make gold and silver coins legal tender in the state. Passage of this bill would take a step toward creating currency competition in South Carolina and undermine the Federal Reserve’s monopoly on money.

Rep. Stewart Jones filed House Bill 4678 (H.4678) on Nov. 20. Under the proposed law, “gold and silver coins minted foreign or domestic shall be legal tender in the State of South Carolina under the laws of this State. No person or other entity may compel another person or other entity to tender or accept gold or silver coin unless agreed upon by the parties.”

Practically speaking, this would allow South Carolina residents to use gold or silver coins to pay taxes and other debts owed to the state. In effect, it would put gold and silver on the same footing as Federal Reserve notes.

The phrase, “unless agreed upon by the parties” has important legal ramifications. This wording reaffirms the court’s ability, and constitutional responsibility according to Article I, Section 10, to require specific performance when enforcing such contracts. If voluntary parties agree to be paid, or to pay, in gold and silver coin, South Carolina courts could not substitute any other thing, e.g. Federal Reserve Notes, as payment.

South Carolina could become the fourth state to recognize gold and silver as legal tender. Utah led the way, reestablishing constitutional money in 2011. Wyoming and Oklahoma have since joined.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: currency; delusionalsystem; federalreserve; fiat; gold; goldbug; goldbugs; incometaxes; oklahoma; preciousmetals; section10; section8; silver; southcarolina; stewartjones; stewartojones; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja; unconstitutional; utah; wyoming
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I am proud to be a South Carolinian!
1 posted on 11/26/2019 6:40:44 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: 14themunny; 21stCenturion; 300magnum; A Strict Constructionist; abigail2; AdvisorB; Aggie Mama; ...

This is something of an oddball but worthy of a Federalist/Anti-Federalist ping. The Supreme Court’s decision in the Gold Clause cases of 1937 permitted abrogation of all gold contracts and cemented our Federal Reserve Notes as forced tender.


2 posted on 11/26/2019 6:45:09 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Thanks for the ping. Good thing for states to be doing.


3 posted on 11/26/2019 6:48:43 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Perseverando

This shouldn’t even be necessary. The Constitution is quite clear on what constitutes money and what States May use for payment of debts.

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4 posted on 11/26/2019 6:55:23 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Perseverando
A Feral Judge™ will issue a stay one Plank Time after it is signed into law ...
5 posted on 11/26/2019 6:56:47 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING!)
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To: Perseverando

Federal government can mint currency.


6 posted on 11/26/2019 7:11:16 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Perseverando

Hallelujah! The Republic is saved!


7 posted on 11/26/2019 7:11:50 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Publius

The Supreme Court was wrong.


8 posted on 11/26/2019 7:24:43 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Perseverando

Good idea, but I would step it up a notch by creating a special state gold repository.

1) Anyone could bring their gold there for assaying and purification to a high standard, like the Canadian Gold Maple Leaf (GML), of .9999 or 24 carat purity. Then it would be minted with a hologram (like a GML) for authenticity, and put in a special box to protect it. The person who brought it in would either get the coins or their cash value.

2) The same concept would apply to high purity minted silver, platinum, palladium, and rhodium coins.

3) Unlike typical coinage, the face value of such coins could be near to or even higher than their value (typical maximum market value) as metal. So the state makes a profit when it sells such coins.


9 posted on 11/26/2019 8:11:08 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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To: Perseverando

Salmon P. Chase declared his Civil War issued notes to be legal tender.

Once he became Chief Justice of the SCOTUS, he declared ONLY GOLD and SILVER to be legal tender.


10 posted on 11/26/2019 8:12:27 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Perseverando

Good luck keeping it from becoming ‘funny money’ as soon as it hits the streets.

Even pure gold coins become fakes as quick as they get out the bank vault.


11 posted on 11/26/2019 10:42:21 PM PST by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: Perseverando

12 posted on 11/26/2019 10:50:13 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Perseverando

We are headed back to the gold standard for the USD. Goodbye inflation!


13 posted on 11/27/2019 3:45:28 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Perseverando
South Carolina could become the fourth state to recognize gold and silver as legal tender. Utah led the way, reestablishing constitutional money in 2011. Wyoming and Oklahoma have since joined.

It'd be interesting to know how many transactions per year are done in gold or silver in these states, especially Utah since it's been legal there for eight years.

14 posted on 11/27/2019 4:12:54 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SecondAmendment
A Feral Judge™ will issue a stay one Plank Time after it is signed into law ...

Why? If it's been legal in Utah since 2011 and the federal courts haven't stepped in yet then why would they do so merely because South Carolina is the fourth state to legalize it?

15 posted on 11/27/2019 4:14:53 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Dick Bachert

In the mid/late 1950’s, I bought gas at $.17-.22 per gal. in Dallas TX. As a student in HS and part time worker at a local A&P grocery making $.50/hr., that was doable!


16 posted on 11/27/2019 4:33:10 AM PST by octex
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To: Perseverando

American Eagle gold coins are legal tender (at face value) in the United States already.


17 posted on 11/27/2019 4:37:42 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: octex
In the mid/late 1950’s, I bought gas at $.17-.22 per gal. in Dallas TX. As a student in HS and part time worker at a local A&P grocery making $.50/hr., that was doable!

So a gallon of gas was the equivalent of 44% of your hourly rate. Today the equivalent would be gas for $3.19 a gallon. I don't know about you but I can fill up for about $2.35 a gallon in the KC area.

18 posted on 11/27/2019 5:10:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Perseverando
This is kind of interesting. I'd not heard that other states had done the same as well. How do transactions work? Since the face value (in FRNs) of gold coins is far below their actual value. For instance, I have a 1oz U.S. gold piece minted last year that has a face value of $50, but today that coin would run you a minimum of $1456, for the gold content itself. Would you price things by weight? For large transactions, it wouldn't be that much of an issue, but you'd need fractionals to transact smaller items of value. Since it says you can use U.S. and foreign gold, would that also include rounds? This would be interesting as you can get private mint rounds down to a gram, or even less. I've seen leaf in 1/4 gram increments.

Another interesting idea comes to mind... Let's say you are called for jury duty. Could you demand to be paid in silver for the pitiful $5/day they pay you? If so, I'd like 5 silver eagles, which have a face value of $1, or would accept 5 pre-1933 Morgan/Peace dollars even though they are less valuable from an actual silver content point of view.

If I had a bunch of money to waste, I'd like to do exactly that, right here in Texas, which doesn't have such a law, since it says right there in black and white in the Constitution:

Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.

19 posted on 11/27/2019 6:47:35 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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Another thought came to mind regarding this...

Let's say Alice buys a car from Bob, who runs a used auto dealership. They agree to make the transaction in modern U.S. Gold Eagles. The price of the car is $295. Alice pays with five 1 oz (face value $50), one 1/2 oz (face $25), one 1/4 oz (face $10), and one 1/10 oz (face $5). According to the face value of the coins, the transaction was $295, but the spot price of gold that day is $1,456.70, making the 'value' of the transaction in FRNs $8,521.70. Most states would require a sales tax on such a transaction. Let's say the tax rate is 7%. How is the transaction taxed? Is the tax applied to $295 or $8521? If the former, would it be $20 in gold (two .10 oz eagles), or $20 in FRNs? Or, would they claim the state was owed $596 in FRNs based on the spot price that day?

Since the state conducts most of it's business in FRNs, and the price was denominated in "dollars", it would be logical for Bob and Alice to argue that $20 in FRN was an appropriate tax, as the coins are issued by the U.S. government and are denominated in 'dollars'.

20 posted on 11/27/2019 7:13:27 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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