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1 posted on 11/22/2019 8:02:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Then there’s Vindman, who received three offers to lead the Ukraine defense ministry, later calling it a “joke,” would seem to be someone of dual-citizenship, too, given the kind of offer he got, the kinds of interactions he had that suggested loyalty to the country and led to the offer, and the difficulty in believing that the offer, made repeatedly, really was a “joke.”

The legal picture on Ukraine suggests he wasn’t a dual citizen, however - and singular citizenship, in Ukraine, is a very big deal, given the trouble the nation has had in sorting itself out in the post-Soviet rubble. Vindman emigrated from what was then the Ukraine in the 1979 at a young age with his father and two brothers, who were Jews leaving the persecution of the Soviet Union.

Two things would disqualify him right away from Ukrainian citizenship, according to Wikipedia - that he wasn’t on Ukrainian soil when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, and that he joined and served in a foreign military. All the same, the laws are pretty fluid in a place like Ukraine and corruption is bigtime common, so anything could be the case. It would have been useful to hear from him under oath that he isn’t a dual-citizen, as appears likely.


2 posted on 11/22/2019 8:02:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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All too true, a large number of the conspirators against the President are foreign born as well.

The founders only required a natural born citizen for ONE office and we couldn’t even get ANYONE to uphold that.

The Constitution is an illusion.

Even here on the most conservative website I get people arguing that Anwar al -Awlaki’s kids, born in Yemen to one citizen parent, are natural born citizens eligible to be President.
If Ted is, they are.

The founders used the strictest standard of citizenship they could find, natural born citizen, born here of citizen parents, naturally a citizen because there could be no alternative.
Solely an American with ONE nationality, ONE allegiance, ONE loyalty.

Obama is not a natural born citizen.
His foreign father made him a British subject and Kenyan national at birth.
He may not be a citizen at all.
His mother renounced his US citizenship and made him an Indonesian citizen.
He never naturalized when he came back.
Pretty sure it was an Indonesian passport that he used to travel until he became a US Senator and got a US passport because of the office.
He used a fraudulent social security number for his whole life until the SSA gave him a new one when he was Usurper.
Citizens have their own and don’t need somebody else’s.


5 posted on 11/22/2019 8:15:19 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Dual citizenship would be a problem for someone running for President, as Ted Cruz found when he ran in 2016.

But triple citizenship is apparently OK:

Obama (Kenya/Indonesia/US)
Harris (India/Jamaica/US)

9 posted on 11/22/2019 8:25:06 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Born in 1965, Fiona Hill didn't become a US citizen until 2002 [37 years old].

Brits don't think the same way about government that native Americans do.

10 posted on 11/22/2019 8:27:13 AM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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Fiona Hill was a SOUR POMPOUS ASS!
Vid man is just a PUNK ASS!


20 posted on 11/22/2019 9:04:33 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Question about Alexander Vindman Purple Heart .....

Was his injury just a John Kerry-type injury? Was is just something he thought he could use for his resume?

There are so many that suffered real injuries and trauma. Those are the men and women I truly have compassion. Is his just resume enhancer?


22 posted on 11/22/2019 9:10:44 AM PST by boycott
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No matter what the SCOTUS has ever said on the issue, I am not at all in favor of dual citizenship. At it’s heart it presumes what does exist cannot exist, and that is divided loyaty. One cannot truly be completely loyal to two sovereigns anymore than can one be completely loyal to two sumpreme beings. G-d said you cannot truly accept G-d and believe in any other G-d, and I don’t think anyone with dual citizenship does not have divided loyalties.

I would hope we can correct this with legislation.


25 posted on 11/22/2019 9:38:20 AM PST by Wuli
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