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Impeachment: In case you missed it -Pretty standard stuff on day one
The Lowell Sun ^ | 11-14-19 | Tom Shattuck

Posted on 11/14/2019 6:24:23 AM PST by calvincaspian

Day one of the impeachment hearings came and went and it was not must-see tv.

The big “Bombshell” according to the anti-Trump media is that President Trump was overheard asking about “the investigations” into the Bidens he was so interested in. This revelation came by way of William Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine who speaks with eerie vocal resemblance to Walter Cronkite and former candidate for vice president and friend of JFK, Lloyd Bentsen.

Taylor explained his staff just recently told him they had overheard the president while dining out with Gordon Sondland, the Ambassador to the European Union. Taylor’s staff explained that Sondland had called President Trump at the restaurant and they could hear his voice over the phone.

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Additionally noted by about 65 Republicans yesterday is that though aid to Ukraine was delayed, it was still much more than anything President Obama had given the country for two years. This is something that the American people will learn as the week progresses.

They will also learn that some of the facts are murky. In revised testimony to Congress, Ambassador Sondland submitted the following in explaining his initial knowledge of the quid pro quo: “Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told Ambassador Taylor that I told Mr. Morrison that I had conveyed this message to Mr. Yermak on September 1, 2019, in connection with Vice President Pence’s visit to Warsaw and a meeting with President Zelensky. ”

Congressman Jim Jordan was happy to repeat the dizzying mishmash several times yesterday for the edification of the American people.

We can expect this impeachment journey to get murkier and murkier as we move forward, and that helps Donald Trump.

1 posted on 11/14/2019 6:24:23 AM PST by calvincaspian
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To: calvincaspian

What a bunch of shameless liars populate our Fake News these days

READ THE TRANSCRIPT you lying scumbags in the Fake News

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

Here is the problem for the Democrat Fascists and their toadies in the Fake New Media.

We will let them assume EVERYTHING is true and accurate in the “transcripts. We allow this nonsense of hearsay, feeling and assumptions to be allowed as “evidence”.

There is still no crime here.

If “Quid Pro Quo” or “bibery” or what ever they are lyinging call it today is a “Crime”, Joe Biden is guilty of one while VP.

Watch the video of him bragging about it.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

The President would have a legal obligation to investigate this “crime” So if it is a crime, Trump was doing his duty, it is is NOT a crime what Biden did it would still need to be investigated to verify. In either case Trump is not guilty of anything.

It is either a crime or it is not. It cannot be a crime for Trump but not for Biden. If it is a crime, Trump is legally obligated to help investigate Bidens actions. .

Either way there is no legal standing to this continuing farce in the US House.


2 posted on 11/14/2019 6:26:25 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: calvincaspian

“Taylor explained his staff just recently told him they had overheard the president while dining out with Gordon Sondland, the Ambassador to the European Union. Taylor’s staff explained that Sondland had called President Trump at the restaurant and they could hear his voice over the phone.”

How CON-VEN-IENT!

OVERHEARD = Hearsay


3 posted on 11/14/2019 6:32:27 AM PST by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: calvincaspian

It all boils down to RBG’s replacement and the IG report that is being promised. This is why the DemonicRats are muddying the waters.


4 posted on 11/14/2019 6:34:49 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: calvincaspian

I couldn’t wait to miss it.


5 posted on 11/14/2019 6:38:02 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Old Yeller

Adam I’m a lying sack of Schiff looked right into the camera and said he didn’t know the name of the WB. Did one Network even report that?


6 posted on 11/14/2019 6:51:42 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: calvincaspian

If Trump did everything they say he did for all the reasons they say he had, its still not an impeachable or rare event.

And I just don’t know the law that says that a presidential candidates son is allowed to sell access to a foreign country and he can’t be investigated. Where is that law?


7 posted on 11/14/2019 6:53:47 AM PST by poinq
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To: LeonardFMason

But as I recall, the R and Trump don’t deny mentioning investigating and Biden on the phone call/transcript - what they deny is establishing a quid pro quo, or conditioning aid on public statements re investigations. On that issue this new overheard phone call adds nothing. Zelensky’s three meetings with Taylor never mentioned these conditions.

So I see nothing wrong with Trump mentioning investigations, pursuing corruption is fair game. Still, we have no first hand witness stating quid pro quo, in fact we have a first hand witness in Zelensky who has publicly stated the opposite. And I personally don’t think running for President (Biden, or anyone) gets you some “get out of jail free” card making you immune from investigation.


8 posted on 11/14/2019 7:07:37 AM PST by USNA74
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To: Old Yeller

“It all boils down to RBG’s replacement and the IG report that is being promised. This is why the DemonicRats are muddying the waters.”

A lot of truth there. Their goal is nothing more than muddying the waters for the reasons you give.

Muddying the waters plus remotely possibly actually damaging Trump.


9 posted on 11/14/2019 7:07:39 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: calvincaspian

Trying to dribble a golf ball with a hockey stick towards the end zone...


10 posted on 11/14/2019 7:11:22 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: SkyDancer

Bad day for the “Bars” in Washington, Dc...who opened early in the morning to host the expected, legion of drinkers they would attract with the “Schiff, Trump Impeachment Farce”. Sorry...according to Fox News Channel this morning on Fox & Friends, the bars remained just about empty with, maybe five to ten people sitting in the bars.

I also have taken note the the Democrat lock step Media has failed to inform we, the people, thus far of the numbers of Americans that tuned in to the wide broadcasting of this farce. I suspect...the Democrats are not thrilled with those numbers...but we shall see.....”MAYBE”?


11 posted on 11/14/2019 7:16:46 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: calvincaspian

Democrat Seinfeld show. A lot of irrelevant testimony that failed to even establish a crime.


12 posted on 11/14/2019 7:24:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

NBC has admitted the mass TV coverage of the Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler Farce”, failed terribly, with very few viewers tuning in, across the board!!! The Media went wild, actually believing that every American would hang on every word the the Democrat low life put forth over the TV Screens of: CNN, MSBC, FNC, FBN, ABC, CBS, NBC, OANN, C-Span, PBS, and many other fools & buffoons who dream, dreams in the media...but reject the truth and facts!!! The American people, the overwhelming numbers of them get it...period!!! Media..”Please do not pee down my backside and tell me it’s raining”!!!


13 posted on 11/14/2019 7:30:18 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

People don’t care. It was a huge ratings flop. Democrats are trying to sell impeachment in the absence of a crime.

There’s no sizzle and no steak. Good luck In getting people to buy this political turkey.


14 posted on 11/14/2019 7:35:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: gibsonguy

Shifty either talked to the Eric Ciaramella through a partly closed door or in a confessional.


15 posted on 11/14/2019 7:35:38 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: LeonardFMason
They were with Sonland when he called the President. They could hear what the President how?? Unless it was on speaker phone.

And the President took his call? I might track this.

16 posted on 11/14/2019 7:36:02 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: calvincaspian
Yet the usual MSM Dem boot lickers are reporting that Trump was "eviscerated" and "devastated" by day one testimony.

Ho hum. SSDD.

17 posted on 11/14/2019 7:37:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (In an age of artificial intelligence, teachers are creating artificial stupidity.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

If that’s true, why don’t Democrats rush to bring articles of impeachment to the floor of the House?

What are they waiting for if they think they got Trump where they want him?

The fact they haven’t shows they don’t believe they’ve got America with them.


18 posted on 11/14/2019 7:43:23 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: calvincaspian

is there a live thread for today?? I did a bunch of searches and found nothing...


19 posted on 11/14/2019 7:46:47 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: calvincaspian

All politicians who are taking kickbacks need to be investigated.


20 posted on 11/14/2019 7:50:29 AM PST by bgill
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