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‘Midway’ celebrates heroism with an old-fashioned approach to the epic war drama
LA Times ^ | Nov 8, 2019 | By KENNETH TURAN FILM CRITIC

Posted on 11/09/2019 1:06:36 AM PST by 11th_VA

“Midway” is so square, so old-school and old-fashioned, it almost feels avant-garde. Ambiguity is not its goal, nor is nihilism its motivating philosophy. It aims to celebrate heroism, sacrifice, determination and grit, and if you don’t like that it really does not care.

Though it’s appearing some 70 years after the epochal World War II battle it re-creates — and more than 40 years after a Hollywood film with the same name on the same subject — this “Midway,” as directed by Roland Emmerich and written by Wes Tooke, pays no attention to the notion that times have changed...

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KEYWORDS: battleofmidway; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; midway; pinko; pinkoreview; worldwareleven
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To: equaviator

I never go to the movies any longer due to the rampant libs rewriting history! This one I considered seeing but the commercials don’t flatter it....too much CG scenery. Older war movies had to use real planes & real battleships, albeit retired ones for the most part. I just don’t care for the cheapness of CG but I guess today the actors high salaries make real footage impossible to afford. I might go see it over TG if I continue to hear good things about it. And no lib history rewriting!!


21 posted on 11/09/2019 6:00:54 AM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......)
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To: billyboy15
However because I refuse to pay $12 for a ticker

Me too. I wait till they come out on DVD then get them from the local library. Mine has a great program, you can reserve them on their website. Most times you might have to go on a waiting list but when it's your turn, they send you an email telling you they're ready for pick up......

When you return them, they have an outdoor drive thru where you just drop them into the slot.....

22 posted on 11/09/2019 6:13:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: Pollster1
Just a reminder. 81 years ago tonight , November 9,1938, in response to the shooting of a German embassy official in Paris Nazis rampaged across Germany in what would become known as “Kristhallnact’’. Hundreds of Jewish synagogues, homes and business were ransacked and burned, 91 Jews were killed and thousands of Jewish men were thrown into concentration camps. It's been said that Kristhallnact was the night The Holocaust began. In reality The Holocaust began the moment Adolf Hitler opened his mouth and the German people shut theirs.
23 posted on 11/09/2019 6:17:18 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: yarddog
Midway was a great victory for the US and the US Navy. But the Japanese got their revenge six months later in the waters off Guadalcanal Canal in what would be known as "The Battle of Iron Bottom Sound''. Nov.13-14, 1942.
24 posted on 11/09/2019 6:20:03 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: 11th_VA

Yep, going Tuesday (Senior Day) afternoon at my local cineplex.


25 posted on 11/09/2019 6:34:59 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: 4everontheRight

Actually, a lot of the aerial stuntwork possible in earlier films has been banned by pretty much all airspace control bodies since the 80s. This was the incident that prompted that:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/actor-and-two-children-killed-on-twilight-zone-set

Additionally, many of the warbirds used for filming in the 50s-70s no longer exist. So these days, it’s CGI or nothing.

Should you go see it, there are two scenes in it that you might class as rewriting that are actually historical. First, the scene where a guy jumps into a grounded US aircraft and starts shooting at an attacking Japanese bomber from the backseater machine gun position, finishing off the damaged attacker, which slices the back of his aircraft off when crashing. That really happened, they didn’t make that up for dramatic reasons. The other thing you might kvetch about is the depiction of the Japanese carriers - it has recently (last decade or so) found out that the depiction of them being caught with their strike aircraft on deck was a lie. When the US strike aircraft arrived, the Japanese strike aircraft were already airborne and away. The Japanese had their combat air patrol craft already airborne and only a couple of reinforcement craft on deck per carrier. A Japanese “historian” invented the full flight decks and was parroted by Western historians. Japanese historians have debunked this as of several decades ago and only recently did the West discover their information had been wrong.

The book that covers the above and that the new film was based in part on: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005NIQ8SM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


26 posted on 11/09/2019 6:41:21 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 11th_VA

I saw this movie yesterday. I give it an A plus! It’s true to the story. No SJW BS. No sappy side love stories. No brothers in conflict.

It cost me $20 with the ticket and snacks but it was totally worth it. This is one to see on the big screen with the big theater sound system. I’ll probably go see it again this week.


27 posted on 11/09/2019 6:44:21 AM PST by POWG
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To: 11th_VA; All

When you watch this movie, you are funding Chinese propaganda.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hollywood-revisits-battle-of-midwaywith-backing-from-china-11573214401

Nobody knew.

Now you do.


28 posted on 11/09/2019 6:51:38 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 11th_VA

“man neglects his wife to help fight the war”

I’m sure this moron reviewer, at some point in his life, was made aware that quite a few men “neglected their wife to fight the war”. I’ve heard that some women even neglected their husbands to help in the war effort. What an idiot.


29 posted on 11/09/2019 6:55:30 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: Pollster1

” Back then, President FDR was on our side even though he was a democrat.”

Yes, in most aspects except he was clearly anti-semetic.


30 posted on 11/09/2019 7:04:38 AM PST by Pirate Ragnar
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To: billyboy15

Can’t you just use the trunk of a friends car to get in for “free”?


31 posted on 11/09/2019 7:19:15 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Not in most parts of the country since the 1980s at the latest.


32 posted on 11/09/2019 7:40:36 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

“Can’t you just use the trunk of a friends car to get in for “free”?”

Damn!! Drive In Theater...I forgot all about them. Do they even still exist? It wouldn’t work anyway. I’m so old that if I crawled inside a trunk I probably wouldn’t get out alive.


33 posted on 11/09/2019 7:51:15 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: jmacusa
"The Battle of Iron Bottom Sound'

My ship's predecessor (USS Chicago) was sunk there. We laid a wreath in the waters 35 years later.

34 posted on 11/09/2019 7:52:00 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

We are going to see it on Veteran’s Day!


35 posted on 11/09/2019 8:19:16 AM PST by FrogMom (Time marches on...)
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To: Spktyr

His name was Bruno Gaido.

He was later shot down during the battle; he and his pilot were picked up by a Japanese destroyer. They were interrogated for a week, then weighted down and shoved overboard.

If I remember the full story, the Kempeitai officer aboard the ship had to do the dirty work himself. The rest of the crew refused to participate.


36 posted on 11/09/2019 8:27:26 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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To: Spktyr

Not entirely true. The Japanese air commander felt that a second strike on Midway was needed. Planes already being armed with torpedoes had to have them taken off and refitted with bombs. This was underway when McCluskey’s planes appeared, the Japanese mechanics had bombs and torpedoes all over the place. They were sitting ducks.


37 posted on 11/09/2019 8:33:45 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: billyboy15

The good news is that modern trunks all have release levers inside the trunk. Some thing to do with kidnapped MILs.


38 posted on 11/09/2019 8:49:59 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: jmacusa
Yes, but the planes themselves were not on the decks - the planes being on the decks is something "everyone knows" that just wasn't so as it was based on what is basically a farrago of lies written by a Japanese author to excuse how 'easily' the Kidō Butai were foiled to the Japanese public. After all, the gaijin were inferior and they should have been defeated easily, right? Well, Western historians copied that crap and now 'everyone knows' it. The Japanese also hadn't left bombs and torpedoes on the flight deck - just like the American carriers, they were arming and fueling aircraft in the hangars. Same kind of thing happened to USS Franklin late in the war, but due to US damage control training, US ship designers using damage control as a primary design principle, and many courageous men, the Franklin made it home. In fact, the above reasons are why a ridiculous number of US ships made it home (or at least floated long enough for the crews to get off in an orderly fashion) with damage that any other navy's ships would have resulted in destruction. The US Navy's absolute obsession with damage control in the interwar period through WW2 paid off in a huge way, though it was quite hard on the crews at times. Funny thing is that we got the idea off the Germans after the Battle of Jutland. They lost the plot, we didn't - and even the Royal Navy, initially thought to be the kings of damage control, was a definite distant second to the US Navy in WW2.
39 posted on 11/09/2019 9:12:35 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: M1903A1

Yup, couldn’t remember his name. Anyway, yeah, the film is not taking artistic license or engaging in revisionism when they show that - as unbelievable as it was, that’s actually what happened.

I do suspect he had to go back to his quarters for a change of underwear and possibly new trousers afterwards, though.


40 posted on 11/09/2019 9:15:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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