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Government View of Bear Spray vs Firearms for Defense Against Bears
AmmoLand ^ | 31 October, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/02/2019 5:01:00 AM PDT by marktwain

In the United States, some governmental authorities are strongly pushing the use of bear spray over other methods of protection against bear attacks. From the Montana Hunter Ed Course:

In sudden encounters, bear spray has proven to work. Bears sprayed with bear spray often stop attacking and, as such, are less likely to inflict serious injury. Use a firearm only as a last resort and only if bear spray is unavailable. Always use your bear spray to help a hunting partner who is being attacked. Misdirected bear spray is survivable; bullets are not. Bears wounded with an arrow, knife, or firearm may intensify the attack, and killing a bear charging at full speed is difficult at best. If you shoot a bear in self-defense, leave the scene as soon as it is safe, and report the incident to Fish, Wildlife & Parks immediately.

The implication seems, if you are armed with a firearm, put it down and use bear spray instead! This is problematic advice at best. The advice ignores the possibility that bear spray will intensify an attack. It ignores the possibility a person attacked will only have 2-3 seconds to react.

Bear spray has NOT been shown to be more effective than firearms in stopping bear attacks.

The studies on bear spray were never done against aggressive bears. In this interview with Tom Smith, one of the principle authors of the most cited bear spray and firearms studies, Tom clarifies the issue. He says the methods are not comparable. He says bear spray has not been shown to be effective against aggressive bears. From outsideonline.com:

I asked Tom Smith if it was valid to conclude that the studied effectiveness of bear spray in brown bear charges is just 33 percent.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; bearspray; guns; polarbears
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1 posted on 11/02/2019 5:01:00 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Just like pepper spray and mace, bear spray often backfires on the user, causing them to be incapacitated.

A firearm does not do that.

Bears do not disarm you and use your weapon against you.

Firearms - 1
Bear Spray - 0


2 posted on 11/02/2019 5:05:57 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Bears sprayed with bear spray

Often.

Sounds a bit like Russian Bear Roulette.

3 posted on 11/02/2019 5:09:41 AM PDT by arthurus (<V^>:)
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To: marktwain

If bears owned AR15s, they would win the fight.


4 posted on 11/02/2019 5:09:45 AM PDT by TheNext (Leader of the Happy People of the World)
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To: marktwain

Bear spray does not have striations, lines or grooves or other identifying marks. There is no database for bear spray dna.

Hence, while potentially lethal, it much less likely to land a user in court for years.

Bears? I don’t go near them. But, I’d shoot them with something really accurate and likely to remove the top of their heads. I’m thinking 45-70.


5 posted on 11/02/2019 5:11:54 AM PDT by anton
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To: marktwain

Did the government have a bear in their face when they decided? Or is this an academic thing about what’s best for the little people?And the bear.


6 posted on 11/02/2019 5:13:24 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: TheNext

If a frog had side pockets, he’d carry a handgun.


7 posted on 11/02/2019 5:14:54 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: marktwain

Had a neighbor complain to the animal control people here in Virginia about a bear that was showing no fear. They never came out. Rather, they sent him one shell with a rubber slug.
The neighbor took care of the problem quietly without the use of their rubber slug.


8 posted on 11/02/2019 5:19:13 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: marktwain

I’ll make sure spray is not available.


9 posted on 11/02/2019 5:26:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: marktwain

Spray a little on your bullets before loading.

The bear will get the spray a few microseconds before the lead.

Just like they want.


10 posted on 11/02/2019 5:42:31 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: marktwain

The bears in my neck of the woods have settled in for the winter...


11 posted on 11/02/2019 5:45:01 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: marktwain

Shoot, Spray and Shut up.


12 posted on 11/02/2019 5:45:40 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: marktwain

Ya think a .470 Marlin will stop a bear Mr.Government man? Or how about an AK-47 with a 30 round magazine? I guess you could tape the bear spray to the muzzle and give him/her a cocktail of chemicals and lead.


13 posted on 11/02/2019 6:18:23 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: marktwain

Proof that liberal bureaucrats are everywhere, even Montana.


14 posted on 11/02/2019 6:20:52 AM PDT by OKSooner (Free Beer Tomorrow)
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To: OKSooner

Even in BC:
Due to the frequency of human-bear encounters, the B.C. Fish and Wildlife Branch is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen and any persons that use the out of doors in a recreational or work related function to take extra precautions while in the field.

We advise the outdoorsman to wear little noisy bells on clothing so as to give advanced warning to any bears that might be close by so you don’t take them by surprise.

We also advise anyone using the out-f-doors to carry “Pepper Spray” with him is case of an encounter with a bear.

Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for fresh bear activity, and be able to tell the difference between black bear feces and grizzly bear feces. Black bear feces is smaller and contains lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear shit has bells in it and smells like pepper.

DK


15 posted on 11/02/2019 6:36:56 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Dark Knight

I wish people would stop posting that silly joke.


16 posted on 11/02/2019 6:54:38 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: marktwain

many years ago, a friend worked for the US Forest Service in the back country of Alaska. They issued him a 375 H&H Magnum. No, that is not a bear spray....and it would make a 44 mag seem mild!


17 posted on 11/02/2019 7:02:52 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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Old Joke

Hikers in bear country often wear ribbons with bells to warn the bears and keep them away. How do you tell if black bears or grizzly bears are in the area? Black bear scat has the remains of small animals, nuts and berries, grizzly bear scat has ribbons and bells.

Using bear spray (concentrated pepper spray) on grizzlies has limited effectiveness and may make you taste better.

18 posted on 11/02/2019 7:19:46 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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To: marktwain
Bears sprayed with bear spray often stop attacking...

Often...

19 posted on 11/02/2019 7:27:43 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: marktwain

I watched the video. A .454 Casull is not affected by the wind at bear range.


20 posted on 11/02/2019 7:30:06 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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