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Quiet sun sets new record for spotless days (Maunder like Min on the way)
wattsupwiththat.com ^ | November 1, 2019 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 11/01/2019 9:36:16 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

As of November 1st, the current stretch of days without any observable sunspots in solar cycle 24 has reached a total of 228 spotless days in 2019 so far That’s 75% of the year so far. During the 2008 solar minimum, there were 268 days without sunspots, or 73% of the year. The sun as seen by the Solar Dynamics Observatory on Oct 31 2019

Here’s a tally of spotless days for the last solar cycle:

2019 total: 228 days (75%) 2018 total: 221 days (61%) 2017 total: 104 days (28%) 2016 total: 32 days (9%) 2015 total: 0 days (0%) 2014 total: 1 day (<1%) 2013 total: 0 days (0%) 2012 total: 0 days (0%) 2011 total: 2 days (<1%) 2010 total: 51 days (14%) 2009 total: 260 days (71%) 2008 total: 268 days (73%) 2007 total: 152 days (42%) 2006 total: 70 days (19%)

Meanwhile, a new cycle 25 sunspot was observed today. From Spaceweather.com :

Breaking a string of 28 spotless days, a new sunspot is emerging in the sun’s southern hemisphere–and it’s a member of the next solar cycle. A picture of the sunspot is inset in this magnetic map of the sun’s surface from NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory:

How do we know this sunspot belongs to the next solar cycle? Its magnetic polarity tells us so. Southern sunspots from old Solar Cycle 24 have a -/+ polarity. This sunspot is the opposite: +/-. According to Hale’s Law, sunspots switch polarities from one solar cycle to the next. Today’s emerging sunspot is therefore a member of Solar Cycle 25.

This development does not mean Solar Minimum is finished. On the contrary, low solar activity will probably continue for at least another year as Solar Cycle 24 decays and Solar Cycle 25 slowly sputters to life. If forecasters are correct, Solar Cycle 25 sunspots will eventually dominate the solar disk, bringing a new Solar Maximum as early as 2023.

Back in April 2019, an confab of solar scientists said:

Experts Predict a Long, Deep Solar Minimum

“We expect Solar Cycle 25 will be very similar to Cycle 24: another fairly weak maximum, preceded by a long, deep minimum,” says panel co-chair Lisa Upton, a solar physicist with Space Systems Research Corp.


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KEYWORDS: globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; maunderminimum; morechat; solar; sun; sunspots
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I've have seen estimates solar energy hitting the earth is due to be down about 7%. Lack of sunspots indicates lower solar activity.

People wonder why it is as cold as hell everywhere right now. This is why and it is going to bad winter.

The global warming kooks have bastardized so much that simple stuff like the climate is driven by that big nuke furnace in the sky is not even considered.

If you want to know more research solar cycles. Google has obfuscated a lot of research so use something else like duckduckgo or yandex

1 posted on 11/01/2019 9:36:16 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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And just today a sunspot emerges in the southern solar hemisphere, a member of the next cycle. Just proving that solar cycles are impossible to predict with accuracy.


2 posted on 11/01/2019 9:40:18 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

bttt


3 posted on 11/01/2019 9:40:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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4 posted on 11/01/2019 9:41:52 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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5 posted on 11/01/2019 9:44:38 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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bump to the top


6 posted on 11/01/2019 9:48:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (This is the Democrat Party using its vote advantage to overturn the results of an election-BenLurkin)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Very Interesting.


7 posted on 11/01/2019 9:49:16 PM PDT by caww
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There is so much we don’t know it insane the GW kooks put together a model and worship it. Things like meteor “smoke” and high energy solar and cosmic radiation create nucleation points for cloud formation. High CO2 cause algae blooms in the oceans which captures carbon self regulating the system. There is orders of magnitude more not known vs what is known or even suspected.

When I have a GW kook try to speak to me I have to take a deep breath and resist the urge to make them poop out their teeth. Arrogant idiots.


8 posted on 11/01/2019 10:00:44 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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Ah dammit.


9 posted on 11/01/2019 10:05:23 PM PDT by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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Global warming? Not. It’s flipping 30 degrees and falling outside here in Northern VA on Nov 1. I’m not going to drive my car anymore because apparently it is causing the world to cool even though they tell me it’s causing it to warm.


10 posted on 11/01/2019 10:07:34 PM PDT by cazmandeuce
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EARTH TO COOL DOWN WARNS GEO SCIENTIST

2007 The US MAT.Com

Scientific reports from Canada and Greenland has indicated that the the shrinking arctic ice sheets have begun to replace themselves rapidly. Strongly suggesting the earth instead of warming, is beginning to cool down. It is still not known (or proven) if this is the result because of the reduced rate of sun spot activity.

Canadian geo scientist Professor R. Timothy Patterson of Carelton University is urging a go-slow on the rush for governments to “Play God” with global warming legislative blaming this on CO2 (carbon dioxide) discharges. Legislating corrections attempting to control a natural cyclic occurrence caused by; sun spots, the magnetic solar wind, and cyclic earth magnetic polarity reversal, among other natural occurrences including volcanism, meteors etc. Probably plays a very significant role in climate change. Yet ignorantly blaming man made CO2 emissions for climatic change. which is becoming a rapidly discredited and minuscule cause of global warming in his article published by Canada’s Financial Post. 6/20/07

Patterson was selected by the Canadian government to study the fluctuations in certain types of fish populations.
While doing so the Canadian Geo-Scientist found a correlation when certain species of fish had high population and then drastic drop offs. He discovered these fluctuations corresponded with sun spot activity and solar radiation vs cosmic activity. When earth cooling occurred.

Studying deep fjords along the Western Canadian coast where deep pools of low oxidation water exist. The Patterson study reached deep into the earths recent past of 4000 years of undisturbed sediments. Patterson found that when aquatic activity was highest and lowest in those collected sediments having high aquatic content had matched known solar protection when the magnetic wind was highest, and dropped off when earth magnetic fields activities were lowest.Thus causing cosmic radiation to intensify.

Then because the earth became unprotected by its magnetic fields from galactic cosmic activity. Patterson cites several accepted theories which concludes this then created cloud activity during such periods which increased drastically. Thus cooling earth and bringing in its ice ages.

In his presentation here is a professor urging more scientific study (like Pope Benedict)is needed. That politicians including Al Gore, of The Earth Is Flat Society, don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. Strongly suggesting that the global warming may be caused by exhaling politicos rather than serious scientific examination.

Patterson seems to be saying before Canadians start investing in palm trees they should be considering better parkas because what goes up must come down and the Mexicans better move over for a reverse population flow. The story was featured in The Drudge Report, and World Net Daily, which were linked in The US Mat’s last page. But lost due to source link changes . http://www.theusmat.com/index.htm


11 posted on 11/01/2019 10:28:30 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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EARTH TO COOL DOWN WARNS GEO SCIENTIST

2007 The US MAT.Com

Scientific reports from Canada and Greenland has indicated that the the shrinking arctic ice sheets have begun to replace themselves rapidly. Strongly suggesting the earth instead of warming, is beginning to cool down. It is still not known (or proven) if this is the result because of the reduced rate of sun spot activity.

Canadian geo scientist Professor R. Timothy Patterson of Carelton University is urging a go-slow on the rush for governments to “Play God” with global warming legislative blaming this on CO2 (carbon dioxide) discharges. Legislating corrections attempting to control a natural cyclic occurrence caused by; sun spots, the magnetic solar wind, and cyclic earth magnetic polarity reversal, among other natural occurrences including volcanism, meteors etc. Probably plays a very significant role in climate change. Yet ignorantly blaming man made CO2 emissions for climatic change. which is becoming a rapidly discredited and minuscule cause of global warming in his article published by Canada’s Financial Post. 6/20/07

Patterson was selected by the Canadian government to study the fluctuations in certain types of fish populations.
While doing so the Canadian Geo-Scientist found a correlation when certain species of fish had high population and then drastic drop offs. He discovered these fluctuations corresponded with sun spot activity and solar radiation vs cosmic activity. When earth cooling occurred.

Studying deep fjords along the Western Canadian coast where deep pools of low oxidation water exist. The Patterson study reached deep into the earths recent past of 4000 years of undisturbed sediments. Patterson found that when aquatic activity was highest and lowest in those collected sediments having high aquatic content had matched known solar protection when the magnetic wind was highest, and dropped off when earth magnetic fields activities were lowest.Thus causing cosmic radiation to intensify.

Then because the earth became unprotected by its magnetic fields from galactic cosmic activity. Patterson cites several accepted theories which concludes this then created cloud activity during such periods which increased drastically. Thus cooling earth and bringing in its ice ages.

In his presentation here is a professor urging more scientific study (like Pope Benedict)is needed. That politicians including Al Gore, of The Earth Is Flat Society, don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. Strongly suggesting that the global warming may be caused by exhaling politicos rather than serious scientific examination.

Patterson seems to be saying before Canadians start investing in palm trees they should be considering better parkas because what goes up must come down and the Mexicans better move over for a reverse population flow. The story was featured in The Drudge Report, and World Net Daily, which were linked in The US Mat’s last page. But lost due to source link changes . http://www.theusmat.com/index.htm


12 posted on 11/01/2019 10:29:17 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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Good info. It mentions several things I mentioned above. Cosmic high energy radiation, meteor “smoke” and sun spots (Solar activity). The magnetic field has everything to do with how much high energy radiation ionizes outer atmospheric matter to create cloud formation nucleation sites. Sun spots tell you how much energy the sun is putting out. An energetic sun has surface “storms” (sun spots). It takes something like a million years for a photon of any energy level to work its way out of the sun and speed off at the speed of light. The sun is like a percolator. Bubble, rest, bubble, rest. While it is bubbling more photons of all energies are put off. There is something like a 11 year gap between bubble and rest stages. There is a much much longer cycle of these cycles. Like with a percolator there is variability.

The damned GW kooks don’t know crap and are not using the scientific method.


13 posted on 11/01/2019 11:00:22 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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I’ve have seen estimates solar energy hitting the earth is due to be down about 7%. Lack of sunspots indicates lower solar activity.
+++++
Thanks so much for your post. I have been posting similar thoughts for some time. Your post was spot on.


14 posted on 11/01/2019 11:12:04 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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Smart people come to similar conclusions.

Not tooting my own horn... well maybe a little... but yours too.


15 posted on 11/01/2019 11:14:09 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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Eternal Mooning (of the AGW psuedo-scientists) By The Spotless Sun


16 posted on 11/01/2019 11:35:22 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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I think the solar activity compares better to the Dalton minimum than the Maunder (so far, this may change). The Dalton as you may know was a period of weak solar activity lasting from about 1795 to 1835; there were peaks in 1801-04 and 1815-16 that resemble 1999-2002 and 2012-13. The next weak cycle peaked in 1829-30 and then a more robust solar activity began with a strong peak in the late 1830s.

There were consecutive years in the Dalton period between those weak peaks with little to no solar activity.

Winter temperatures in Europe were similar in the Dalton and Maunder; summer temperatures were less affected. There isn’t enough reliable weather data from North America especially for the Maunder to make similar comparisons.

It may be a moot point if the weak Dalton and the total shutdown of the Maunder had the same impacts on climate anyway, except that the Dalton lasted 40 years and the Maunder lasted more like 60 with almost no activity for the last third of the 17th century and the first fifteen years of the 18th.

If there is some weak human modification of climate, these trends might partially cancel each other out resulting in a steady state climate through the solar downturn.

My own study of the situation points to a stronger warming from 1987 to 2006 than more recently, more variable trends since 2006, and peaks of warmth in North America and Europe often being simultaneous and very highly correlated with the El Nino cycle.

I agree that this coming winter could produce some severe cold especially in central and western regions, the east coast may be in more of a confluent zone between the cold Midwest and the milder than normal Atlantic provinces of Canada with the storm track running something like Texas to Kentucky to northern New England. If you’re on the northwest side of that, look out for a lot of winter storms. If you’re southeast of it, you’ll have some milder spells with those storms passing north of you. But I think that the east will start out cold too, November could be below average, not sure it will last into the heart of the winter season before flipping to mild.

There will be more unusual cold waves and snowstorms in the higher parts of the southwestern states as we just saw this past week. Kodachrome Basin State Park in Utah had an overnight low of -10 F recently, something that in a normal winter might happen once or twice in midwinter with snow cover. Where I live in southern BC, we had the coldest October low in the past century, and there is snow at about the 5 to 6 thousand feet elevation in the local hills that fell in September and hasn’t melted totally since then. Quite unusual for snow to appear that low before end of October, on summits yes but these are forested areas just above the populated zone in this region. It stays cold in the daytimes and the sun’s heat seems quite feeble compared to a more normal weather pattern in the autumn.

Some Canadian wheat and canola farmers are saying they never really had much of a summer in 2019 and harvesting what little they got has proven difficult.

Winnipeg Manitoba had a heavy snowfall two weeks ago that caused widespread power outages as fully leafed trees were brought down by heavy wet snow. This too was almost unprecedented in modern times. Out of season snowfall records usually correlate to cold years in general, and are not correlated with any manifestations of warming as some climate scientists are trying to imply.


17 posted on 11/01/2019 11:39:36 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Nobody reads this anyway so here's my password: *************)
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Yet, in 2005-2006, before cycle 24 began, NASA predicted cycle 24 was going to be larger than 23. Turns out 24 was about 1/2 of that.


18 posted on 11/01/2019 11:41:32 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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“Some Canadian wheat and canola farmers are saying they never really had much of a summer in 2019 and harvesting what little they got has proven difficult.”

I knew an old geologist (RIP) that studied glaciers and was all into cycles of various sorts. He wrote a paper once that correlated gold prices to solar sun spots. Fewer sun spots correlated to a higher price of gold. I thought he was crazy - but then realized that the gold prices may have been responding to the poor crops.

His research indicated that another cold period would be coming at some point. He did backyard experiments in breeding various crops better suited for cold weather, and ended up working with some University in Sweden with his work - some of his seeds ended up in some “doomsday” vault in some Norwegian mountain.

He was one of those guys that was so smart that he came across as crazy.


19 posted on 11/01/2019 11:52:33 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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This used to bother ham radio types, but that’s so 20th century. 73 de KF4MA


20 posted on 11/02/2019 2:14:47 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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