Posted on 10/22/2019 10:11:02 PM PDT by Cronos
Boris Johnson failed to fast-track his Withdrawal Agreement Bill (WAB) through Parliament, in a major set back for the UK Prime Minister -- meaning his dream of an October 31st Brexit now seems seriously unlikely.
The Prime Minister did, however, claim a victory in principle -- after the bill passed its "second reading" in the House of Commons. After three years of agonizing Brexit debates, it's the first time lawmakers agreed on a way forward.
Despite warnings from the government that no-deal preparations now must "accelerate," the EU looks set to grant Britain another extension, after European Council President Donald Tusk tweeted that he will recommend the bloc accepts the UK's request.
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It passed but CNN says it failed because it is on a slower time table?
Anyone have detail on this?
CNN is a runaway train that Project Veritas hasn’t even slowed.
.. and we all look forward to its eventual horrendous crash. It will be a beautiful thing to watch.
Basically:
the UK parliament (in whom the sovereignty of the UK lies) says “We agree to Boris’ deal that he has agreed with the EU”
But it also said “we don’t agree with the timeline of 31 October, we need more time to go over the minutae and ensure that we agree with all the preparations”
To which Boris said “Ok, I’m happy with one, but I threaten to not delay and give you a no deal”
The problem with this is that the ones’ voting against him also include those who want no-deal.
I think alternatives are:
1. he gets his deal approved in detail by 31.Oct
2. he requests a short extension to get everything in order by say Christmas
3. he goes for no deal
4. he requests an extension but gets one until January 31 2020 in which case the UK needs to implement anti-money-laundering laws and a lot of the Brexit backers have to declare assets to the UK government, so a windfall for the UK (billions of pounds)
> To which Boris said “Ok, I’m happy with one, but I threaten to not delay and give you a no deal”
Say what?
> 4. he requests an extension but gets one until January 31 2020 in which case the UK needs to implement anti-money-laundering laws and a lot of the Brexit backers have to declare assets to the UK government, so a windfall for the UK (billions of pounds)
Say what?
5. Boris sues the EU in EU court for granting the extension
6. Boris files a writ of mandamus in EU court to compel the EU to ignore the parliament extension request as illegitimate without his signature and without his support, that is, void of “meaningful progress” for which the EU previously obligated itself to wait and on which to predicate the granting of an extension.
i will be visiting some asian british expat bars soon. i wonder if i will lose any teeth by speaking up. my unofficial sense last time was that british expats are mostly from london and tend to favor bremain. well, maybe i will not speak up, and keep my teeth lol.
"Boris sues the EU for granting him the extension he asked for" -- really, the first thing he'll admit is that he sent that in his capacity as PM.
> “Boris sues the EU for granting him the extension he asked for” — really, the first thing he’ll admit is that he sent that in his capacity as PM.
you mean, boris sent it but he will claim that he actually did not mean it?
(just confused)
No, I mean Boris sent it and he meant to send it and he had to (as per the Benn act) send it.
He can’t sue the EU for that as the first question in any court case would be “did you send that letter as PM of the UK?” and the answer is “yes.”
> He can’t sue the EU for that as the first question in any court case would be “did you send that letter as PM of the UK?” and the answer is “yes.”
Possibly. And possibly the latest bill surviving the second reading could conceivably be construed by EU courts as “meaningful progress.”
If so then does an extension appear to be the predominant possibility?
And if so, what is the most likely extension period? And why so?
Not possibly. Actually. He cannot and will not deny the fact that he sent, as the PM, in the capacity of PM, an official government letter asking for an extension.
The “meaningful progress” is Boris agreeing to keeping the Irish border open. That was the only bone of contension.
“does an extension appear...” - yes and no, maybe.
As to a possible extension - anything is possible. Wait and watch
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