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A Moral Citizenry Is Not a Theocracy: Understanding the Meaning of Words
Townhall ^ | 10/17/2019 | Laura Hollis

Posted on 10/17/2019 9:32:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

"Theocracy" is one of those words that gets thrown around a lot, and most of the people using it these days don't appear to have the foggiest idea what it means.

Merriam-Webster's online dictionary defines theocracy as "government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided." A Google search provides a similar definition: "A system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god." (Bill Murray, call your office.)

In contemporary American parlance, "theocracy" is inevitably used in the context of a threat -- as in "So-and-so wants us to live in a theocracy!" So when I saw it popping up all over the Twitterverse last week, I was curious: What now?

Turns out it originated right here at Notre Dame. United States Attorney General William Barr spoke at Notre Dame Law School on Oct. 11. Right on cue, all the unhappy warriors who see Gileads bubbling up in every American small town raced to warn us of our impending doom. Also as per usual, in their screeds were seeds of the very things Barr described.

It wasn't just fringe groups like RefuseFascism.org, which proclaimed in a headline, “At Notre Dame, William Barr Lays Out a Christian Fascist Nightmare.” Or even LGBTQ Nation, which accused the Trump administration of wanting to “tear down” the separation of church and state. (The headline read “2 Trump officials said the U.S. should be run as a Christian theocracy.”) The Nation’s headline cried, “William Barr is Neck-Deep in Extremist Catholic Institutions”  and writer Joan Walsh described Barr as "a paranoid right-wing Catholic ideologue who won't respect the separation of church and state." She mocked the Catholic men's service group Knights of Columbus (of which Barr has been a member) as "a patriarchal cosplay group." Walsh's distaste for Catholicism is matched only by her evident loathing of evangelicals. She writes: "(I)t's worth noting that Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney were all also raised Catholic -- but Pence and Pompeo went one better than Barr and joined the official GOP denomination, White Evangelical Protestantism ... I couldn't wish these guys better company to spend time with in hell."

Yikes.

The Washington Post asked in a headline, “Is This Barr’s Cry for Help?” and author Catherine Rampell dutifully repeated the trope that Barr's speech was "a tacit endorsement of theocracy." Columnist Paul Krugman at The New York Times perhaps took it furthest: “God is Now Trump’s Co-Conspirator,” read his headline. (To his credit -- I think -- he was speaking tongue-in-cheek and hypothesized that Barr's speech was less about establishing a theocracy and more about providing a smoke screen against Trump's impeachment by rallying the anti-secularist troops.)

A bit of constitutional clarity might help here. The opening language of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution contains two important clauses: the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise clause. It reads as follows: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..." When Barr's detractors (the most charitable term possible) express horror about the attorney general of the United States criticizing what he views as an onslaught of secularism, it would appear that they are focusing on the Establishment Clause, the first 10 words of the First Amendment.

But Barr's primary concern is for the protection of the Free Exercise clause, not the Establishment Clause, as the full text of his remarks makes clear. In other words, the attorney general endeavors to protect the right of the American citizen to practice his or her religion without undue government interference. He is not asserting -- explicitly or implicitly -- that the government should make Christianity (much less Catholicism) the "official religion" of the United States. Claims to the contrary are ignorant, deceitful or both.

Not to mention ahistorical.

Barr's speech was peppered with quotes from philosophers and America's founders alike. John Adams' statement about the necessity of a moral citizenry is particularly well known: "We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by ... morality and Religion. ... Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Barr also cited James Madison: "We have staked our future on the ability of each of us to govern ourselves ..." He expounded upon this, saying, "This is really what was meant by 'self-government.' It did not mean primarily the mechanics by which we select a representative legislative body. It referred to the capacity of each individual to restrain and govern themselves."

Proof of the truth of Madison's and Adams' statements is everywhere. The more self-restraint citizens exercise in their daily lives, the less government is needed. Is it any surprise, then, that so many people in our present culture are clamoring for more and more government?

No one is calling for a theocracy. But a free country comprised of citizens with strong moral values grounded in (for example) Judeo-Christian belief is not a theocracy. If, as we so often hear, it is not the job of the government to "legislate morality," then morals, values and principles must have some other source. Our government should be protecting citizens whose lives are a reflection of their religious beliefs and practices. The U.S. Constitution requires it. The stability of our country and our culture depend upon it.

All William Barr did was acknowledge it.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: morality; theocracy

1 posted on 10/17/2019 9:32:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Trying to let others define you.


2 posted on 10/17/2019 9:35:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SeekAndFind

Godless radical Leftists, some masquerading as libertarians, claim the Constitution demands the destruction of the moral basis of the American culture that seeks to preserve the Constitution. Ya can’t make this stuff up!


3 posted on 10/17/2019 9:41:09 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: jjotto
some masquerading as libertarians, claim the Constitution demands the destruction of the moral basis of the American culture that seeks to preserve the Constitution.

I'm skeptical ... which masqueraded libertarians, and what exactly do they claim the Constitution demands?

4 posted on 10/17/2019 9:49:12 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SeekAndFind

I use the ‘Islam’ standard.

If I wouldn’t want the government doing it to promote Islam (or Satanism), I don’t want the government doing it to promote even the very values I hold dearest.

NEVER give the government any more power or influence- under the best and most noble of men and for the best and most noble of purposes- than you would want it to have under the worst of men for the worst of purposes.

There would be not problem with a government that promoted or protected *MY* religious values, but I want a government that is utterly incapable of promoting the foulest, most Islamist or Satanic values. THAT is why the more limited a government is, the better.


5 posted on 10/17/2019 9:55:37 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Barr’s speech was great - with, of course, not a whiff of theocracy: https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-william-p-barr-delivers-remarks-law-school-and-de-nicola-center-ethics


6 posted on 10/17/2019 9:57:49 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: RedStateRocker
NEVER give the government any more power or influence- under the best and most noble of men and for the best and most noble of purposes- than you would want it to have under the worst of men for the worst of purposes.

Amen! (And Barr said nothing contradictory to that - not that you said or implied he did.)

7 posted on 10/17/2019 9:59:06 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SeekAndFind

https://twitter.com/i/status/1184656977638711296


8 posted on 10/17/2019 10:16:52 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
TRUMP POSTED THIS:


9 posted on 10/17/2019 10:19:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where is Donna Brazile?

Not a full list.

They omitted CNN’s then debate moderator/reporter/political commentator , Donna Brazile. She fed debate questions to Hillary in a cheat scheme. (President Trump still won.)

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/17/donna-brazile-admits-leaking-debate-questions-to-c/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2Z72y-ej5QIVTj0MCh2k0gl5EAAYASAAEgJeMPD_BwE


10 posted on 10/17/2019 10:28:31 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


11 posted on 10/17/2019 10:35:35 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: SeekAndFind

They know exactly what Barr meant.


12 posted on 10/17/2019 12:26:03 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP
So you reckon they're dishonest rather than stupid? Could be.
13 posted on 10/17/2019 2:41:18 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SeekAndFind

Yet the roots of Blue Laws (mandatory Sunday store closings) and prohibition were almost entirely theocratic. As are anti-gambling and prostitution laws.


14 posted on 10/17/2019 2:46:12 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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