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TRADE DEAL WITH CHINA IS A BLOCKBUSTER
Powerline ^ | OCTOBER 12, 2019 | JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 10/12/2019 2:41:20 PM PDT by Hojczyk

What the Democrats fear most is happening: President Trump and his negotiating team are reaching wide-ranging agreements with China that will be a huge boon to the United States.

In an Oval Office press conference yesterday, President Trump and China’s Vice Premier announced a Phase 1 set of agreements that will be documented over the next several weeks. The video of the press conference is embedded below; Trump’s performance was masterful. His many years of experience as a negotiator shine through.

The Phase 1 agreement covers several important topics, including agricultural sales. China has agreed to ramp up its purchases of agricultural products to $40-$50 billion–three times the previous peak–over the next two years. Trump joked that farmers will need to buy more land and work overtime. That means, I think, that Democrats can say goodbye to hopes that tariffs would be the issue that could win votes in rural America.

The agreement also opens up China’s financial services markets to American companies, covers currency manipulation, and addresses some aspects of intellectual property and technology transfer agreements. Phase 2 negotiations will begin immediately.

Many are saying that the Chinese willingness to enter into this wide-ranging agreement shows that they understand impeachment is a joke, and expect that President Trump will be re-elected. In fact,

Trump himself said exactly that in response to a question: “They expect that I’m going to win. Otherwise they wouldn’t sign the deal. It’s very simple.” If Trump can get our relationship with China straightened out well in advance of the election, with economic benefits becoming visible, the main obstacle to his re-election will, in my opinion, be removed.

Here is the press conference in its entirety:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; china; trump; trumpwinsagain
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To: dp0622

What you say is usually true but usually they are dealing with politicians. If they renege on our President they know they will suffer serious consequences.


21 posted on 10/12/2019 4:34:52 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: dp0622

What you say is usually true but usually they are dealing with politicians. If they renege on our President they know they will suffer serious consequences.


22 posted on 10/12/2019 4:35:10 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Nothingburger

His main success was ending the Cold War and defeating the Soviet Union. That would be a great triumph.


23 posted on 10/12/2019 8:38:37 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: ocrp1982

Interesting post... thanks.


24 posted on 10/12/2019 8:45:30 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: ocrp1982

Very good info sir. Thanks !


25 posted on 10/12/2019 9:35:56 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: srmanuel

“IMO, selling them soybeans and pork is no big deal.”

Oh, it is a big deal.

China has big issues with its agriculture. Most of the farms in the PRC are, or at least still or appear to be, very small. Many still use an ox or small tractor that looks like something from the 1950s. They also appear to be poorly run.

Most of the young people have left the farms and moved to the cities and a lot of the farmers are getting very old. There is an effort by the government to get younger people back farming again but I have no idea if it is working.

Poor agricultural practices like using human sewage as a fertilizer mean that the crops are often contaminated. Overuse and misuse of pesticides are rampant. Pigs are routinely fed steroids to make them grow faster. Look up the scandal with the poisonous powdered mild products several years ago.

I do know for a fact that many Chinese avoid food products produced in China. They don’t trust them more than you do, maybe less.

It is said here that “Demographics is destiny” that is true in more than voting. What happens when all those 60 to 70-year-old farmers die off?

Selling China food makes them dependant upon the US. That is, strategically a very good thing.

No nation can be a great power if it cannot feed itself. That is one reason why Japan and South Korea have such high agricultural tariffs

PDJT just subverted the entire Chinese economy.


26 posted on 10/12/2019 10:07:16 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Fai Mao
What happens when all those 60 to 70-year-old farmers die off?

I thought the Chinese were communist. That being said, they should have a never ending supply of farmers because it would seem the people would be forced into that occupation. Also, control of who goes where (kids going to city) would be implemented.

27 posted on 10/12/2019 11:49:37 PM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: eartick

China is not as communist in practice as it is in theory. In many ways, it has made the transition from a Communist dictatorship to a Fascist Oligarchy. I am not sure if that is an improvement or not.

Do not misunderstand it is a tightly controlled society and repressive in many ways but they can’t just tell people “Be a farmer” The current leaders are well aware of the hardships and the famine caused when Chairman Mao tried to do similar type things in the ‘60s with the “Great Leap Forward”. They know they would not survive such a situation today. They are also well aware, though they deny it publicly of the massive problems they have with pollution. About the only option, they have left is to import food.

More recently, the leaders in the PRC have the example of North Korea trying to create fishermen by taking people without the requisite skills and putting them on trawlers with a warning to not return without a full catch. The people they put on the boats to fish didn’t know how to either work the nets or pilot the boat. They got to sea and starved to death or died of exposure. Literally, 100’s of North Korean fishing trawlers with dead crews ended up on the beaches of South Korea, Japan, and China.

I placed a link to one story about this below. What it describes was a small part of the story

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/asia/north-korea-japan-ship/index.html

China has fairly free internal movement within the country and has had since about 1989. You no longer, to my knowledge have to get permission to move from one place to another. Or if you do, it isn’t hard to get. Chinese citizens travel to other places as tourist all the time. If the PRC tried to suddenly, by force tell people “Move back to the farm and grow rice” I don’t think it would work very well.

China has a huge problem with agriculture and it is only going to get worse.


28 posted on 10/13/2019 12:15:38 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: dp0622

If they renege, they have to pray he doesn’t win again...he’ll twist their nipples until their balls fall off.


29 posted on 10/13/2019 2:35:27 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Destroyer Sailor
Yes, and reviving a moribund US economy and raising our spirits.

Although his delivery and style is much different than the Gipper's, the current president is accomplishing much of same.
30 posted on 10/13/2019 6:52:10 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: dp0622

I agree with dp062. If a Chinese negotiator is speaking its a good bet he is lying, or not planning to follow through.

Afterall, history is history...


31 posted on 10/13/2019 7:03:36 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: trebb

If they renege or keep cheating and stealing tech secrets, he will DESTROY them next year.

He may destroy them before then.

Even the chinese advisers must Know the impeachment is a joke.

I imagine they have some folks who are experts on our govt and what is going on here.

Is it possible they ALREADY think impeachment is a no go AND he is going to win?

Is it worth the risk of ticking him off for the next year if he wins again?

I dunno lol

I can’t even decide what to have for lunch! :)

Enjoy your day Trebb


32 posted on 10/13/2019 9:30:45 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: Dan in Wichita

Ronald Reagan grew up in a different time and place than Donald Trump. They are both men of their times.


33 posted on 10/13/2019 5:18:16 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: Hojczyk

I am hoping monday is like last friday when my AMD stock went up $1.37 / 4.83%


34 posted on 10/13/2019 7:14:12 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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To: Destroyer Sailor
Ronald Reagan grew up in a different time and place than Donald Trump. They are both men of their times.

Agreed. Reagan belongs to history now. Trump is the man for this time.
35 posted on 10/13/2019 7:31:51 PM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: dp0622
I imagine they have some folks who are experts on our govt and what is going on here.

I imagine they've infiltrated many of our institutions and flat out own a bunch of them.

36 posted on 10/13/2019 10:12:26 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Stentor

Yeah I was thinking that a little too.

But you nailed it with the words


37 posted on 10/13/2019 11:01:59 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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